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Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

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Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby manas » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:25 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby manas » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:53 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby Feathers » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:23 am

Manas, thank you for the very good advice. And culaavuso, that was a really interesting little article, thank you!
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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby Mkoll » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:25 am

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby SarathW » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:51 am

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“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby kmath » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:12 am

To the OP,

I'm not quite understanding what the fear is about. Is it fear of "letting yourself go" or something? Can you explain?

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby SarathW » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:01 am

Please be aware of the sixteen stages of insight:
No:6 Bhaya Nana:

The sixth stage of knowledge is bhaya nana or "knowledge of the appearance as terror." The following characteristics can be observed:

a.At first the meditator acknowledges objects, but the acknowledgements vanish together with consciousness.
b.A feeling of fear occurs but it is unlike that generated by seeing a ghost.
c.The disappearance of nama and rupa and the consequent becoming nothingness induce fear.
d.The meditator may feel neuralgic pain similar to that caused by a nervous disease when he is walking or standing.
e.Some practitioners cry when they think of their friends or relatives.
f.Some practitioners are very much afraid of what they see even if it is only a water jug or a bed post.
g.The meditator now realizes that nama and rupa, which were previously considered to be good, are completely insubstantial.
h.There is no feeling of happiness, pleasure or enjoyment.
i.Some practitioners are aware of this feeling of fear but are not controlled by it.
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http://www.vipassanadhura.com/sixteen.html#fourc
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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby khlawng » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:43 pm

when you have properly established yourself in your meditation practice and have some basic training in Jhanas,
each time you send metta, you can feel energy emitting in the direction you are sending them out.
you will feel compose and happy. and your mind will feel bright and blissful.
that is the only consolation i can give you.
so keep working on overcoming that fear because the reward is worth it.

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Postby Feathers » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:09 am

Thanks daverupa. That's a really interesting sutta, the 'each look after yourself' thing is counter-intuitive but actually really practical advice I think.

And thanks everyone for the replies, lots of kindness and encouragement here :smile: I'm still a bit baffled by the fear, but I guess press on and try and ignore it for now :shrug:
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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

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Re: Feeling scared when I read about the good things . . .

Postby Feathers » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:31 pm

I'm revisiting this because I had a thought (it's a rare occurrence :-P ) :

One of the things about Buddhism that I didn't need any convincing about was impermanence. In particular, my life the past 8yrs in particular has taught me not to trust the good times and feelings. The other night on the way home from work I realised I was feeling really happy about my new job, and that was immediately followed by a very similar fear to what I've been describing in this thread. So maybe I'm scared of a meditation that leads to feeling good because I expect it to fall away and be replaced not just by something neutral but by very bad feelings.

Any general advice based on this theory of the cause of the fear?
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