I agree, it's craving on one side, aversion on the other, but the basis of it all is delusion.culaavuso wrote:I would call the coin delusion. It's through the delusion that the inconstant feelings associated with sensory objects are seen as worthy goals in their own right and thus that greed and aversion arise.
What is the reason for attachment ?try to escape dukkha ?
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Pronouns (no self / not self)
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
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Are attahment,aversion and ignorance, three sides of the same coin?Goofaholix wrote:They are two sides of the same coin.purple planet wrote:aversion always leads to greed ?
can it be seen that aversion and greed come together always?
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15156
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Re: What is the reason for attachment ?try to escape dukkha
Craving leads to greed and aversion.purple planet wrote:Unpleasant feeling gives rise to aversion, and/or gives rise to craving for something else that the mind thinks will provide a distraction from or substitute for what you're averse to
strong feeling - strong aversion - strong greed
aversion always leads to greed ?
can it be seen that aversion and greed come together always? ( positive feeling - greed for more, aversion from what i got
negative feeling - aversion from now, greed for better )
Unpleasant feeling gives rise to craving for something better than the present.
Feeling drives the whole thing.
"There are these three kinds of feeling: a pleasant feeling, a painful feeling, and neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling. On the occasion when one feels a pleasant feeling, one does not feel either a painful feeling or a neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling. One feels only a pleasant feeling on that occasion. On the occasion when one feels a painful feeling, one does not feel either a pleasant feeling or a neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling. One feels only a painful feeling on that occasion. On the occasion when one feels a neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling, one does not feel either a pleasant feeling or a painful feeling. One feels only a neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling on that occasion.
"A pleasant feeling is inconstant, fabricated, dependently co-arisen, subject to ending, subject to vanishing, fading, ceasing. A painful feeling is also inconstant, fabricated, dependently co-arisen, subject to ending, subject to vanishing, fading, ceasing. A neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling is also inconstant, fabricated, dependently co-arisen, subject to ending, subject to vanishing, fading, ceasing.
"Seeing this, an instructed disciple of the noble ones grows disenchanted with pleasant feeling, disenchanted with painful feeling, disenchanted with neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling. Disenchanted, he grows dispassionate. From dispassion, he is released. With release, there is the knowledge, 'Released.' He discerns, 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world.' A monk whose mind is thus released does not take sides with anyone, does not dispute with anyone. He words things by means of what is said in the world but without grasping at it."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
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noSarathW wrote:Are attahment,aversion and ignorance, three sides of the same coin?
Pronouns (no self / not self)
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah