Youtube videos violate precepts?

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Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:26 am

Most videos are posted by people who use footage that aren't their own, does this violate the stealing precept to watch it?
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Re: Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:40 am

I think most of the videos on youtube fall under fair use laws, so no.
But I have seen full films on there in searches so some caution is needed.

can you give an example of the type of video you are thinking of?
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Re: Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Ben » Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:20 am

It's not clear whether you are seeking clarification on whether posting videos or watching videos is a breach of the precept not to take that which is not freely given.
I think for viewing, it is a little murky. One can be forgiven for assuming that material on YouTube is free from encumbrance and complies with youtube's copyright conditions.
With posting videos on YouTube, I think it's harder to wriggle out of unknowingly posting material that is not ones own, let alone covered by copyright.
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Re: Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:49 am

Cittasanto wrote:I think most of the videos on youtube fall under fair use laws, so no.
But I have seen full films on there in searches so some caution is needed.

can you give an example of the type of video you are thinking of?


It was a music video.
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Re: Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Kim OHara » Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:21 am

Strive4Karuna wrote:Most videos are posted by people who use footage that aren't their own, does this violate the stealing precept to watch it?

If the footage was not owned by the person who uploaded it and the owners had not given given their permission for it to be uploaded, then the person who uploaded it has broken the precept against taking what is not freely given.
The position of anyone viewing it is not so clear. As Ben said, we should normally be able to assume that material shared online is shared by (or with the consent of) the owner, and that would be fine. If we view or use anything without knowing it to be stolen, there was no intention to steal and IMO we haven't broken the precept. On the other hand, we do have some obligation to make sure that what is given to us is not stolen, whether it's a Youtube video or a gold watch.

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Re: Youtube videos violate precepts?

Postby Mr Man » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:10 am

I'm not sure if we should be looking for external rulings on the precepts - If you feel watching certain youtube videos is inappropriate or of dubious legality and are not at ease with watching them don't watch them.
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