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What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby cooran » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:25 am

Hello all,

An interesting article:

What do you want to do when you're dead?
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/w ... ce-edition

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby appicchato » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:18 am

Chill...until the meds can use anything...or everything... :pig:
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby binocular » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:41 am

cooran wrote:What do you want to do when you're dead?

Push up flowers, obviously.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby James the Giant » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:53 am

I'd like to donate my body to a monastery, where they'd watch it decay, like this woman at the monastery I'm staying at now, Tham Yai Prik, on Ko Sichang.
They built a perspex box and a special building so it didn't stink the place out so bad.
It's pretty horrible, sobering. Still smelly.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby James the Giant » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:02 am

Ooh that picture turned out big and could perhaps shock small conservative sheltered children or those who prefer to avoid the reality of death...
Should I not have attached it?
Apologies.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:05 am

James the Giant wrote:Ooh that picture turned out big and could perhaps shock small conservative sheltered children or those who prefer to avoid the reality of death...
Should I not have attached it?
Apologies.
Don't worry about it.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby James the Giant » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:09 am

Thanks, I've not read the TOS recently so I wasn't sure.
They have a brush in the room, so you can sweep the floor clean of corpse-dust before you sit to meditate.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby cooran » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:23 am

appicchato wrote:Chill...until the meds can use anything...or everything... :pig:


Good idea, Bhante!

This is Australia's Register of Organ Donors - I am sure most countries would have something similar:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/custome ... r-register

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby waterchan » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:13 pm

James the Giant wrote:Should I not have attached it?


The picture doesn't smell :P

I think in this age of the Internet, shocking smells cause more offense than shocking images.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Sam Vara » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:33 pm

James the Giant wrote:Ooh that picture turned out big and could perhaps shock small conservative sheltered children or those who prefer to avoid the reality of death...
Should I not have attached it?
Apologies.


Strange coincidence. I just opened this post while my five year old daughter and three year old son were looking at the screen, wondering what Daddy was watching. They were both mildly interested in the picture, and wondered why someone had put the lady in the box. They both thought she had a funny name: "Is she from a foreign country?"
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Feathers » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:24 pm

Aww I thought this was gonna be a sort of 'pick your dream afterlife' thread (kinda like 'design your dream home' or whatever). Possibly I'm on the wrong board right now . . .

Anyway, organs etc. to anyone who can use them, and then whatever means of disposing of the rest is cheap and environmentally sound at the time.
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Kim OHara » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:22 pm

Feathers wrote: ... organs etc. to anyone who can use them, and then whatever means of disposing of the rest is cheap and environmentally sound at the time.

Sounds good to me, but I have to add that I was impressed by the variety of possibilities they listed.
Freeze-drying to turn the body into soil nutrients without going through the not-so-nice smelly decomposition was a new one to me. I don't know if it's worth the extra effort, though - no-one is normally going to be bothered by what happens inside the coffin. :tongue:
By the way, shooting remains into space does not count as "environmentally friendly" when you think of how much fuel it takes to lift stuff into orbit.

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:21 pm

I would like one of those Viking funerals where you get put on a boat and they shoot arrows to set it alight. But it probably wouldn't be allowed due to Health and Safety. :jumping:
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Hickersonia » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:46 pm

James the Giant,

A very poignant image there... even my 2-year-old daughter noticed the image and clearly equated it to a person, pointing, gasping, and exclaiming "Oh no! Oh no!"

Definitely something to think about -- I don't think I know anyone who has ever seen a decomposing body before. I have to wonder if displaying one in that manner would even be legal in many places in the U.S.

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Aloka » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:04 pm

When I was a teenager, I fancifully thought that I'd like to give my body to be used for pet-food when I died !

....Canned Aloka. :)
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby manas » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:50 am

cooran wrote:Hello all,

An interesting article:

What do you want to do when you're dead?
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/w ... ce-edition

With metta,
Chris


I love the idea of a 'sky-burial' as it is called in Tibet, where the body is left out in the open so that wild animals can devour it. But out of consideration for my childrens' feelings, of course I will not do this, and will opt for cremation in a plain cardboard box.

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby Aloka » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:44 pm

manas wrote:
I love the idea of a 'sky-burial' as it is called in Tibet, where the body is left out in the open so that wild animals can devour it.


The dead bodies are eaten by vultures - which is why its called "sky" burial.

In several accounts, the flesh was stripped from the bones and given to vultures without further preparation; the bones then were broken up with sledgehammers, and usually mixed with tsampa before being given to the vultures. Many rogyapa first feed the bones and cartilage to the vultures, keeping the best flesh until last. After having had their fill of good quality meat, the birds usually fly away - leaving the bones and less favored bits.[citation needed]

In one account, the leading rogyapa cut off the limbs and hacked the body to pieces, handing each part to his assistants, who used rocks to pound the flesh and bones together to a pulp, which they mixed with tsampa before the vultures were summoned to eat.

Sometimes the internal organs were removed and processed separately, but they too were consumed by birds. The hair is removed from the head and may be simply thrown away; at Drigung, it seems, at least some hair is kept in a room of the monastery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial
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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby plwk » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:51 pm

I love the idea of a 'sky-burial' as it is called in Tibet, where the body is left out in the open so that wild animals can devour it. But out of consideration for my childrens' feelings, of course I will not do this, and will opt for cremation in a plain cardboard box.

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Re: What do you want to do when you're dead?

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:45 pm

Spiny Norman wrote:I would like one of those Viking funerals where you get put on a boat and they shoot arrows to set it alight. But it probably wouldn't be allowed due to Health and Safety. :jumping:


Great....I just had a mental image of that wonderful film, 'The Vikings' starring Kirk Douglas and Tony Curtis as Viking brothers.... it was such a dreadful film - it was brilliant. Now, i can't get the theme tune out of my head!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcD8RW6Leo

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Get a good night's kip.
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