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Why would a creator god need a creator god?

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Why would a creator god need a creator god?

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Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:25 pm

Well, some members of the Abrahamic faiths always ask us where did the world come from, who created the universe? So I guess it is from that some adherents from Dharmic religions ask, who created God?

Most Dharmic religions (Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, perhaps others) say that a first beginning is not discernible. This seems to make sense more than just saying "God was always there, there is no creator of God".

Astronomers talk of the big bang and the numerous (billions, trillions or more) solar systems and galaxies and how a new one evolves from the matter left behind of the old, seemingly ad infinatum.
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Why a creator god in the first place?

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Postby Ben » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:15 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
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Postby waterchan » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:06 pm

quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur
(Anything in Latin sounds profound.)

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Postby Jetavan » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:19 pm

I think as we learn more about the cosmos, we might learn that a creation of a cosmos is in the realm of human possibility. Even at this moment, there might be physically based beings of such intelligence that they have been able to manipulate matter in such a way to create a black hole or singularity, by means of which a new universe (or two) can be created. Maybe these beings have also figured out a way to adjust the physical constants of the universes they create (making gravity a little bit stronger, or electricity a little weaker). Maybe they also figured out ways to set a "time-limit" on the existence of these new universes. These beings would still be in the web of kamma-vipaka, however; and would themselves be the 'creations' (i.e., children) of one or more parental beings.

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Postby SarathW » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:00 pm

I was brought up as a child to worship parents, grandparents and adults etc.
I even worship my teacher who taught me skills.
This tradition is fading away.

I think God idea has help the monkey to become the first human.
Just imagine we try to teach Buddhism to a monkey!

I ask my children to pray to God.
That is the quickest way I can teach them how to respect others.
Hopefully they will understand Buddhism one day.

Based on above ground I don’t think that we need to know who create God. :shrug:
Answer to this question is depend on the level of individual development.

See my previous post "Not believing in God is not such a good idea"
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Postby Ben » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:13 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
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- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby SarathW » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:23 am

Thanks Ben.
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Re: Why would a creator god need a creator god?

Postby SarathW » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:42 am

Agree.
But how do you teach, Morality and positive behavior towards others to a fool?
Due to fear some people avoid bad action.
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