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A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha. - Dhamma Wheel

A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Sat May 10, 2014 8:45 pm

Honestly? There is already so much controversy, discussion, debate and speculation surrounding the Buddha's existence, that I cannot personally see of what benefit such discussion can bring.

I merely ask myself in situations like this, "what will this directly do to enhance my practice? How will this benefit my progress along the path? "

Could you answer that for me?

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby mikenz66 » Sat May 10, 2014 9:31 pm

Thanks for the link. Though I just skimmed it, there are some interesting points there, with reasoned input from people on various sides of the issue.

Whether these issues should have any impact on one's practice I guess depends on how what relative use one makes use of the Pali and/or other Canons, commentaries, modern interpretations, and so on. For some of us the detailed history is not particularly an issue. For others it is seen to be important...

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Postby Dan74 » Sun May 11, 2014 6:32 am

The way it looks from here (being a pretty deluded practitioner of a bit over a decade) is that while further along the path, thing may start to get complicated, for me, the practice is very simple. I am guessing that these complications are likely due to semantic differences and occasionally to some vestigial 'abiding'. Of course, there's a good chance that I am missing something.
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Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Sun May 11, 2014 10:47 am

:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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‘Absit invidia verbo’ - may ill-will be absent from the word. And mindful of that, if I don't respond, may be why....

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

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quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur
(Anything in Latin sounds profound.)

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Sun May 11, 2014 3:48 pm

Doubtless.

I want the OP to explain how the subject to which he is specifically alluding to, can improve my practice or positively affect it.


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You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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Pay attention, simplify, and (Meditation instruction in a nutshell) "Mind - the Gap."
‘Absit invidia verbo’ - may ill-will be absent from the word. And mindful of that, if I don't respond, may be why....

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Postby Mkoll » Sun May 11, 2014 6:20 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby ArkA » Sun May 11, 2014 6:41 pm

Read on page 31 about scholars and meditators.
I'll restart my yearlong meditation retreat on 15th June 2014, hence will not be here.

"Bhikkhus, there are these three things that shine when exposed, not when concealed. What three? (1) The moon. (2) The sun. (3) The Dhamma and discipline proclaimed by the Tathagata."
- Anguttara Nikaya, 3.131, Paticchanna Sutta

"Silence is the language of God; all else is poor translation."
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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Sun May 11, 2014 7:01 pm

:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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‘Absit invidia verbo’ - may ill-will be absent from the word. And mindful of that, if I don't respond, may be why....

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Re: A Vital new debate of What can we know of the Buddha.

Postby Mkoll » Sun May 11, 2014 7:35 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa


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