Life from what period

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Life from what period

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Postby James the Giant » Mon May 12, 2014 9:35 am

And now let's see you quote the texts that monk you mentioned used to justify his position. Seems fair to present both sides of what could easily become a harmful or fiery debate, since that monk is not here to rebut the commentaries.
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Ajahn Brahmavamso - In this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12323&start=80

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:namaste:

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Postby James the Giant » Mon May 12, 2014 11:47 am

Robert, I'm sure you are aware of this thread, sutta quotes with references to abortion and fetuses and all that stuff. viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17159&p=245253
There are some other relevant references in this paper http://www.stefan.gr/buddhism/books/aja ... -begin.pdf
Do you prefer to rely on commentaries, or suttas?
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Please remember the Classical Forum rules:

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Then,
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:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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Re: Life from what period

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Re: Life from what period

Postby Virgo » Mon May 12, 2014 2:30 pm

I don't believe there is support in the cannon for killing any living thing, nevermind a fetus. I also do not believe there is any indication that a young fetus is not yet a human being. In fact, it would seem, that the kamma involved is just that of a killing a human being. Therefore, the person who does it might re-arise in perdition in hell, etc., and when he or she comes back to the human realm be short- lived, etc.

Of course, if they recognized their error and lived with sila for the rest of their life, they may not have to suffer the effects of that kamma of killing in this life or the next life, or the ones thereafter.... but sooner or later, in the course of time, the result of that kamma will come to ripen and it will be painful. When, by conditions, the time is right, the effect of that killing will arise and be experienced.

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Dear kevin
It would be great if you could dig out some references on this issue.
Robert

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