Anyone who has seen rebirth ?.

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I don't really understand what all the beef is about. He just answered the OP.
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I personally don't have a beef. I was merely discussing his accounts in-depth.
Truly.
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Kasina wrote:I don't really understand what all the beef is about. He just answered the OP.
:shrug:
Come now, all forums are havens for beef. :jumping:
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whynotme wrote:
What is your opinion on the sutta about 32 signs of great man (I don't remember the name exactly)? Some said it was a late development. I really curious about physical attributes of the Buddha, and it seems you don't want talk about your memory, could you talk about that sutta in general?
Hi whynotme,

You might be interested in what Ajahn Sujato has to say "On the 32 marks"

http://sujato.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/on-the-32-marks/


With kind regards,

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Mkoll wrote:
Kasina wrote:I don't really understand what all the beef is about. He just answered the OP.
:shrug:
Come now, all forums are havens for beef. :jumping:
Indeed, but this thread isn't even on Open Dhamma :rofl:
"This world completely lacks essence;
It trembles in all directions.
I longed to find myself a place
Unscathed — but I could not see it."


Sn 4.15 PTS: Sn 935-951 "Attadanda Sutta: Arming Oneself"

"You will be required to do wrong no matter where you go... This is the curse at work, the curse that feeds on all life..."

Wilbur Mercer in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
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Aloka wrote:
whynotme wrote:
What is your opinion on the sutta about 32 signs of great man (I don't remember the name exactly)? Some said it was a late development. I really curious about physical attributes of the Buddha, and it seems you don't want talk about your memory, could you talk about that sutta in general?
Hi whynotme,

You might be interested in what Ajahn Sujato has to say "On the 32 marks"

http://sujato.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/on-the-32-marks/


With kind regards,

Aloka
Thanks, but I am not interested in that research

On one hand, I will accept any kind of truth, if it is the truth. OTOH, I don't like ill research where personal opinion is spoken as fact. Most of 32 marks is normal, nothing freak, and he dismisses them without proof by saying just that the Buddha had normal physique, that is an ill research by any standard. But it is good that he spoke out, so that I can know whether or not believing him on other issues.

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whynotme wrote:
Aloka wrote:
whynotme wrote:
What is your opinion on the sutta about 32 signs of great man (I don't remember the name exactly)? Some said it was a late development. I really curious about physical attributes of the Buddha, and it seems you don't want talk about your memory, could you talk about that sutta in general?
Hi whynotme,

You might be interested in what Ajahn Sujato has to say "On the 32 marks"

http://sujato.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/on-the-32-marks/


With kind regards,

Aloka
Thanks, but I am not interested in that research

On one hand, I will accept any kind of truth, if it is the truth. OTOH, I don't like ill research where personal opinion is spoken as fact. Most of 32 marks is normal, nothing freak, and he dismisses them without proof by saying just that the Buddha had normal physique, that is an ill research by any standard. But it is good that he spoke out, so that I can know whether or not believing him on other issues.

Regards
. . . I don't even know where to begin so I'm just going to use one those handy emoticons: :toilet:
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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The word 'arrogance' springs to mind.... I can't think why..... :thinking:
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I'm very fond of Ajahn Sujato. His Sutta Classes and Talks about Indian history I find always very inspiring :anjali:
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someguysomeguy wrote:It would be nice if there were some conclusive evidence, but I'm not surprised that there isn't. Rebirth is inherently hard to test -- how could it be done, really? Maybe some large-scale study carried out over generations and across multiple geographical regions, but who has the resources to conduct such a study?
Most Arhant claim to have recollection of past lives
If they could be more specific, as, for example, I was a carpenter in the life before.. then it would be easy to test.
Just go ahead and look for the historic traces for that carpenter.
There should be some record somewhere
rowboat wrote:I remember a previous life where I was a painter of religious art from Bhutan, attached to a monastery in Tibet. I was sent to the city of Lhasa and, to allay my fears of the supernatural, I was given an amulet which I ended up clutching so tightly on my journey that I wounded my hand. I met a woman, a singer, in a public square. We fell in love. We died together soon afterwards. (I have many details to share with a Tibetologist. Very likely chance for independent verification.)
Very interesting.
I think some independent verification is actually possible here.
For example, if you could share the name of the painter, the location of the monastery and the name of the woman, it may be possible to check about this.
After all, there may be some records of that monastery and of that painter, somewhere
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