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Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Mkoll » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:01 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:32 pm

So from your very first post, you intended some form of deceit by stipulating that the person experiencing this was someone you know - whereas, in fact, you were speaking about yourself?


No, someone who has Gone Beyond, an arahant, a person who has attained Nibbana, does not need to lie, obscure or use subterfuge.

You have not attained Nibbana.
In fact, I would say you are clinging to the hope that someone will agree with you, because it's what you'd like to think.

But frankly, an awakened person has no need to ask.
Hence my initial doubt, which you have just confirmed.
:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

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Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:54 pm

It's called 'being economical with the truth' and it's not what you said necessarily; it was the intention behind it.
You were hesitant or reluctant to reveal this 'person you know' was you, in order to deflect criticism.

I repeat:
You have been nowhere 'near' Nibbana.
:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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‘Absit invidia verbo’ - may ill-will be absent from the word. And mindful of that, if I don't respond, may be why....

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Mkoll » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:58 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:01 pm

You are the most splendid arbiter, Mkoll.... :sage:
:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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‘Absit invidia verbo’ - may ill-will be absent from the word. And mindful of that, if I don't respond, may be why....

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Crazy cloud » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:44 pm

your name Mori means forest like the infinite fresh green distances of your blindness

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Dan74 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:08 pm

I've seen reports of people after such psychodelic experiences whose orientation becomes much less to do with self and more with serving others and who afterwards commit to a spiritual path. This would be the best outcome.
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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Mkoll » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:53 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby SamBodhi » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:18 am

I think that it is important to add to this discussion the idea that it is not necessary to take Ayahuasca.

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All outward-going knowing
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Re: Nibbana under the effect of ayahuasca

Postby Crazy cloud » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:09 am

your name Mori means forest like the infinite fresh green distances of your blindness


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