Can I become a just a Buddhist Monk without belong to a part

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Greetings Sarath,

That all seems like an inordinate amount of effort to go to, simply to avoid alignment with a tradition.

It's important to remember that the path happens within the mind, not within tradition.

Metta,
Retro. :)
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SarathW wrote:Hi Sati Married lay person can become a stream enterer and a once returner. :)
Not quite true. You can have a wife, and be non-returner, but such relation can't be sexual.
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Isn’t marriage is some form of bond? So he still may have attachments.
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“I had four young wives. I then went to them and said: ‘Sisters, I have undertaken the training rules with celibacy as the fifth. If you want, you can enjoy wealth right here and do merits, or go back to your own family circle, or inform me if you want me to give you over to another man.’ My eldest wife then said to me: ‘Young sir, give me to such and such a man.’ I sent for that man, and with my left hand I took my wife, with my right hand I took the ceremonial vase, and I gave her to that man. But even while giving away my young wife, I don’t recall that any alteration took place in my mind. This is the third astounding and amazing quality found in me.
http://suttacentral.net/an8.21/en#21-22

He had 4 wives. One went away. 4 - 1 = 3. Hard to belive, but even with such grat obstacle as three wives you can be non-returner. :smile:
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He called them sisters, that means he did not have any attachments.
It is like a divorce without divorce.
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Hello SarathW, I would like to know where you found that text of Thanissaro Bhikkhu? It seem very interesting to me., thank you in advance :)
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Gabriel wrote:Hello SarathW, I would like to know where you found that text of Thanissaro Bhikkhu? It seem very interesting to me., thank you in advance :)
It is from Upasika Kee Nanayon and the Social Dynamic of Theravadin Buddhist Practice
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Thanks!
I like to read it too.
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“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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are those questions yours?
boris wrote:
“I had four young wives. I then went to them and said: ‘Sisters, I have undertaken the training rules with celibacy as the fifth. If you want, you can enjoy wealth right here and do merits, or go back to your own family circle, or inform me if you want me to give you over to another man.’ My eldest wife then said to me: ‘Young sir, give me to such and such a man.’ I sent for that man, and with my left hand I took my wife, with my right hand I took the ceremonial vase, and I gave her to that man. But even while giving away my young wife, I don’t recall that any alteration took place in my mind. This is the third astounding and amazing quality found in me.
http://suttacentral.net/an8.21/en#21-22

He had 4 wives. One went away. 4 - 1 = 3. Hard to belive, but even with such grat obstacle as three wives you can be non-returner. :smile:
allowance should be made that it all was happening while the Buddha was alive, personal contact with an awakened being transforms people

i suspect that even an arahant cannot produce such a profound effect on people
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Hi Lxnder
It is not me. Some other member perhaps.

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SarathW wrote:Hi Lxnder
It is not me. Some other member perhaps.

:)
thank you for clarifying that :)
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