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parinibbana

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:15 pm

Is this leaning towards an eternalist view, that something beyond physical death lasts forever?
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Re: parinibbana

Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:30 pm

Dependent arising lasts forever. When we see Dependent arising we see the Buddha.

Not existing
Not non existing
Not both
Not neither

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Re: parinibbana

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:41 pm

The buddha teaches the ending of dependent arising which is what leads one to nibbana. If there was no ending to dependent arising then there would be no nibbana as there would be continuous birth?
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Re: parinibbana

Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:59 pm

Actually the Buddha teaches the ending of Suffering.
Transcendental Dependent Arising has no end it just leads endlessly away from suffering.
The Buddha teaches two basic types of Dependent Arising. That which leads endlessly to suffering and that which leads endlessly away.
Seeing clearly into the type which leads to endless suffering is what we need to do in order to give rise to the type which leads us forever away from it.
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Re: parinibbana

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:27 pm

clw_uk wrote:Is this leaning towards an eternalist view, that something beyond physical death lasts forever?


there are ten things which are not to be answered! they are not beneficial to the end
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
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