Bodhi vs. Nibbana

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Bodhi vs. Nibbana

Postby Nibbida » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:37 am

Can anyone clarify the difference (if there is any) between bodhi and nibbana? When a person achieves the 1st stage of awakening (stream entry), is that said to be bodhi or nibbana (or both or neither)?

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Re: Bodhi vs. Nibbana

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:29 am

Bodhi and 'attaining nibbana' both refer to 'full' enlightenment ie arahathship. Stream enterers do get a glimpse of the nibbana 'element' and are said to gain the 'dhamma eye', but is not the journey completed.
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Re: Bodhi vs. Nibbana

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:19 am


It does raise a few questions though on the term 'bodhisatta' if bodhi is to be understood as such.

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Re: Bodhi vs. Nibbana

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:36 am

Hi Retro,
Cant think of a sutta to quote this from so from memory.
uusually when the Buddha uses the term Boddhisatta it is followed with destined for enlightenment as in

when I was an unenlightened Bodhisatta destined for enlightenment

so I would imagine in the theravadan context Bodhi is used in Bodhisatta to denote the end of the path that being is on??? almost like a sotapana is two kinds of persons those on the path to and those who are fully sotapanas, maybe a Bodhisattva is someone who is on one of the first three levels
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