pt1 wrote:The pali for the above 9 divisions of the Dhamma is:sutta, geyya, veyyakarana, gatha, udana, itivuttaka, jataka, abbhutadhamma, and vedalla.
So by that definition, gatha certainly isn’t a subset of suttas.
According to that definition, sure. My point is that all of those fall under the label of sutta.
Sutta too has multiple definitions, and I was referring to that which I have bolded...
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Sutta1 [pp. of supati] asleep Vin iii.117; v.205; D i.70; ii.130; Dh 47; It 41; J v.328. -- (nt.) sleep D ii.95; M i.448; S iv.169. In phrase ˚ -- pabuddha "awakened from sleep" referring to the awakening (entrance) in the deva -- world, e. g. Vism 314 (brahmalokaŋ uppajjati); DhA i.28 (kanaka -- vimāne nibbatti); iii.7 (id.); cp. S i.143.
Sutta2 (nt.) [Vedic sūtra, fr. sīv to sew] 1. a thread, string D i.76; ii.13; Vin ii.150; Pv ii.111 (=kappāsiyā sutta PvA 146); J i.52. -- fig. for taṇhā at Dhs 1059; DhsA 364. -- kāḷa˚ a carpenter's measuring line J ii.405; Miln 413; dīgha˚ with long thread J v.389; makkaṭa˚ spider's thread Vism 136; yantā˚ string of a machine VbhA 241. -- Mentioned with kappāsa as barter for cīvara at Vin iii.216. -- 2. the (discursive, narrational) part of the Buddhist Scriptures containing the suttas or dialogues, later called Sutta -- piṭaka (cp. Suttanta). As such complementary to the Vinaya. The fanciful expln of the word at DhsA 19 is: "atthānaŋ sūcanto suvuttato savanato 'tha sūdanato suttāṇā -- sutta -- sabhāgato ca suttaŋ Suttan ti akkhātaŋ." -- D ii.124; Vin ii.97; VbhA 130 (+vinaya); SnA 159, 310 (compared with Vinaya & Abhidhamma). -- 3. one of the divisions of the Scriptures (see navanga) A ii.103, 178; iii.177, 361 sq.; Miln 263. -- 4. a rule, a clause (of the Pātimokkha) Vin i.65, 68; ii.68, 95; iii.327. -- 5. a chapter, division, dialogue (of a Buddh. text), text, discourse (see also suttanta) S iii.221 (pl. suttā), 253; v.46; Nett 118; DhsA 28. suttaso chapter by chapter A v.72, 81; suttato according to the suttas Vism 562=VbhA 173. -- 6. an ancient verse, quotation J i.288, 307, 314. <-> 7. book of rules, lore, text book J i.194 (go˚ lore of cows); ii.46 (hatthi˚ elephant trainer's handbook).
-- anta 1. a chapter of the Scriptures, a text, a discourse, a sutta, dialogue Vin i.140 sq., 169; ii.75; iii.159; iv.344; A i.60, 69, 72; ii.147; S ii.267=A iii.107 (suttantā kavi -- katā kāveyyā citt'akkharā cittavyañjanā bāhirakā sāvaka -- bhāsitā); Vism 246 sq. (three suttantas helpful for kāyagatā sati). -- 2. the Suttantapiṭaka, opp. to the Vinaya Vism 272 (˚aṭṭhakathā opp. to Vinay'aṭṭhakathā). As ˚piṭaka e. g. at KhA 12; VbhA 431. See Proper Names. -- kantikā (scil. itthi) a woman spinner PvA 75; as ˚kantī at J ii.79. -- kāra a cotton -- spinner Miln 331. -- guḷa a ball of string D i.54; M iii.95; Pv iv.329; PvA 145. -- jāla a web of thread, a spider's web Nd2 260. -- bhikkhā begging for thread PvA 145. -- maya made of threads, i. e. a net SnA 115, 263. -- rajjuka a string of threads Vism 253; VbhA 236. -- lūkha roughly sewn together Vin i.287, 297. -- vāda a division of the Sabbatthavādins Dpvs 5, 48; Mhvs 5, 6; Mhbv 97. -- vibhanga classification of rules Vin ii.97. Also title of a portion of the Vinaya Piṭaka.