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saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithful theravadins

Postby vitellius » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:46 pm

Hello all,

I'm looking for biographies of teachers and practitioners who had faith (saddha) on a central or an important place of their personal spiritual way.

It seems that for most Christian or Tibetan 'saints' faith played most important role, but do you know any theravadins who benefited much from their devotion?
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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithul theravadins

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:41 pm

Greetings Oleksandr,

The first thing that comes to mind is that faith and wisdom need to be in balance, so that if any were successful on account of their faith, it would only be because of the conjoinment with wisdom.

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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithul theravadins

Postby Guy » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:44 am

Hi Oleksandr,

I agree with Retro. Saddha/Faith and Panna/Wisdom must be developed side by side. In extreme cases faith without wisdom leads to holy wars and suicide cults all in the name of "religion". Real religion should be based on wisdom as much as faith.

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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithul theravadins

Postby vitellius » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:04 am

Thanks Retro and Guy! I agree with your points in general.

But I would like to repeat the question:
I'm looking for biographies of teachers and practitioners who had faith (saddha) on a central or an important place of their personal spiritual way.

Do you know any?

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Postby piotr » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:10 am

Bhagavaṃmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā...

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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithul theravadins

Postby cooran » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:46 am

Hello all,

This may be of interest:

Does Saddha mean Faith? Parts I and II - Ñanamoli Thera
http://www.bps.lk/new_wheels_library/wh ... aMeanFaith?

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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithul theravadins

Postby vitellius » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:52 am

Particularly, do you know any teachers whose main meditation object was recollection of Buddha or Sangha, Dhamma, devas, Peace?

Or in terms of 5 indriyas: some meditators are best in jhanas (samadhi), some are very mindful (sati), some are doing best with vipassana insights (pañña).
And are you aware of any teachers, monks or practitioners whose strongest power is in their saddha or viriya?
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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithful theravadins

Postby gavesako » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:19 pm

You could include pretty much all the well-known Thai Ajahns in this category, that is how their mind works, they have strong Saddha (with the exception of people like Ajahn Buddhadasa and even Ajahn Chah, who had more investigative minds).
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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithful theravadins

Postby vitellius » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:36 am

Dziękuję, Piotr and děkuji vám, Bhante!

Bhante, can you please name several Ajahns of this 'category' whose teachings you personally like?'

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Postby gavesako » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:05 am

You can simply look up www.forestdhammabooks.com and pretty much all of this tradition fall in this category (Ajahn Khao, Ajahn Maha Boowa, Mae Chee Kaew, etc.).
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Postby piotr » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:37 pm

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Re: saddhānusāri's and saddhā-vimutta's or faithful theravadins

Postby vitellius » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:35 pm

Hi all,

Has anyone read "Faith: Trusting Your Own Deepest Experience" by Sharon Salzberg?
http://books.google.com/books?id=rBIBAAAACAAJ

If yes, what useful have you learned from this book?


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