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Most important texts

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:09 am

What would everyone say the three most important parts (sutta or otherwise) of the canon are, the essential teachings?

I would probably say Mahasatipatthana sutta, the vinaya rules (not read the rest so cant make a decisive decission on the vinaya) and Mahāviyūha Sutta

what would you say were the three most important bits?


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Re: Most important texts

Postby cooran » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:40 am

Hello Manapa,

I prefer not to say that any part is more important than others - the whole of the Tipitaka is important.
However, these suttas I found to be quite profound, and come back to them time after time.

The Mahanidana Sutta and commentaries (This is Thanissaro's trans. - but I prefer Bhikkhu Bodhi's.)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The Mulapariyaya Sutta and commentaries (This is Thanissaro's trans. - but I prefer Bhikkhu Bodhi's.)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The Brahmajala Sutta and commentaries (This is Lee Brassington's trans. - but I prefer Bhikkhu Bodhi's).
http://www.leighb.com/dn1.htm

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Re: Most important texts

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:24 am

Just as a matter of curiosity Chris , are there legal or perhaps technical reasons why it is not possible to quote Bhikkhu Bodhis translations ?

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Re: Most important texts

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:24 am

I don't think there is apart from symbolicly, I have seen allot of Bodhis work on google books which are pretty much the complete book or the complete book.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Most important texts

Postby cooran » Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:53 pm

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Re: Most important texts

Postby clw_uk » Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:56 pm

For me they are all important but they are all important at different times




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Re: Most important texts

Postby kidd » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:07 pm

What could be more important than The Eightfold Path; the path by which everything else can be known?

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Edit: Sorry. The Dhammacakkappavattana-sutta, "Setting in Motion the Wheel of Truth". Thank you, Chris!
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Re: Most important texts

Postby cooran » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:12 pm

Hello kidd,

This thread is about Most Important Texts.

Which text about the 8 Fold Path are you favouring?

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Re: Most important texts

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:04 pm

:offtopic:

as the one who started this thread I would like to know what everyone thinks the three most important parts of the Tipitaka :focus:


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Most important texts

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Re: Most important texts

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:48 pm

Greetings Manapa,

Do you mean objectively or personally?

Either way, it would probably be these three, read in this order.

1. Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta (SN 56.11)
2. Mahasatipatthana Sutta (DN 22) (although I personally prefer MN 10 - less 'insertions')
3. Kaccayanagotta Sutta (SN 12.15)

Kalama Sutta would have to be there or there abouts too.

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Re: Most important texts

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:57 pm

Hi Kare & Retro
you will have to post the bits that were kept in!
but why not both?


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Most important texts

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Most important texts

Postby Raga Mala » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:27 pm

I am surprised no one has so far grouped together the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta, the Anatta-lukkhana Sutta, and the Aditta-pariyaya Sutta. Bhikkhu Nanamoli groups them together as the "three cardinal discourses of the Buddha."

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el017.html
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Re: Most important texts

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Re: Most important texts

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