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Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:32 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:35 am

Greetings bhante,

Thanks for the good work! :thumbsup:

I do hope that it will remain practical to publish texts in book form because I find books far more convenient for reading on the train.

Which reminds me, I've got a decent sized order to make through BPS tomorrow... nice timing!

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Ben » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:44 am

Thank you Bhante for your hard work and the work of everyone involved at BPS.
It is greatly appreciated.
metta

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:54 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:01 am

Greetings Individual,

Sounds a bit too Gen Y for me... :tongue:

I like my books and I like my CDs! Happy to get things in digital format, but I'm not paying for them.

Metta,
Retro X :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:33 am

To demonstrate my above point a bit further, by the way, I just came across a video that demonstrates a similar case:
http://fora.tv/2009/09/23/Free_Conomics ... s_Anderson

The editor-in-chief or WIRED Magazine talks about how Microsoft has actually benefited financially from software piracy. And China, too, benefited. Now, look at what the BPS produces, consider who pirates it and why, and then think about how the same type of situation might apply in this case.
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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:25 am

Individual is making very sensible points. Once a manuscript has been published there exists a digital format of the document that could easily be converted into one or a series of PDF files that can be easily distributed via websites or file sharing networks (btw, the prudish idea held by many Buddhists that file sharing networks are "bad" is just foolish - millions of legal files are shared every day. It's not the tool, it's the intention).

A common reason for not doing this is the mistaken belief that book sales will slow down and thus profits will be negatively impacted. Research has shown that this isn't the case...Buddhist organizations who publish for profit should be aware that the reverse is actually true. Downloads fuel print book sales, sometimes enormously.

Protecting the copyright is a whole different story, of course...and it is quickly becoming an archaic notion - and imo not sufficient reason to withhold release of an electronic version of Dharma books.

Profit and ownership are very interesting subjects regarding publishing in these changing times...especially for Buddhist organizations. Who claims the right to own the Dharma...and to litigate in order to protect that ownership for the primary purpose of protecting against (imagined) loss of profit? There now exists the means to put the Dharma in easy reach of nearly 2 billion people and growing daily. We'll see if Buddhist organizations step up to the plate...
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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby BlackBird » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:02 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby Individual » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:56 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby cooran » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:36 pm

Hello all,

Many of these posts are from a Western-centric perspective.

Only 1 in 4 people in the world has even the possibility of internet access - and of those, most have no knowledge of how to operate a computer, and absolutely no possibility - ever - of affording use.

Texts on the internet can always be altered and corrupted.

Copyright safeguards texts.

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby BlackBird » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:39 pm

Well said Mike and Tilt.
The Dhamma is worth more than all the riches in the world could buy.

:anjali:
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:15 pm

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Re: Why isn't the Visuddhimagga free?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:18 pm

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.


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