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Extraverts in Buddhism?

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Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:35 am

Greetings,

To me, Buddhism seems an inherently introspective practice, and therefore ideally suited to introverts who are already inclined to look inward rather than out.

I'm curious to know though, how extraverts approach Buddhism, and whether they feel that their practice and experience of the Dhamma is different to that of introverts?

There are a lot of Buddhists in the world... no doubt many are extraverts, and presumably some frequent Dhamma Wheel too.

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:48 am

Interesting question. Perhaps it's a Western introspective thing.
They seem extroverted enough in Thailand...
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:59 am

There's considerably more extraverts in Western Tibetan buddhism than in Western Theravada in my experience.
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:03 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby imagemarie » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:07 am

One might think that introversion/extroversion would no longer find expression amongst monastics? Maybe that's unrealistic ?
Ajahn Brahm strikes me as an extrovert :tongue:

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Fede » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:10 am

I am extremely extroverted. I have a great deal of energy, and humour is the bedrock of who I am. I don't mean always joking and laughing and refusing to take life seriously when the occasion is needed, but I'm light-hearted, and even in my lowest moments always see the light at the end of the tunnel. If I'm down, I ain't down for long, and I am sociable, voluble, articulate and ebullient.


I am also relatively pig-ignorant when it comes to the Buddha's teachings.

I would be devastated however, if anyone ever made this connection, and theorised that the type of person I am, blocks me from being the Buddhist I hope I am.
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:38 am

I am afraid I dont have the link to hand ..but there was a formal properly contructed study done ( using Eysenck ) a few years back, perhaps five years ? Which showed that there was a significant number of people from all Buddhist traditions who veered towards the Introvert end of the spectrum.
You are not alone Fede, my husband is very much at the Extrovert end of the scale and has been a Buddhist since his teen years..You can usually tell where in the room he is is in any Buddhist setting. There are certainly current teachers who are Extrovert, Ajahn Brahm has been mentioned, and I would include the lovable Ajahn Munindo too.......
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby genkaku » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:21 am

Hi retro -- Without throwing a wet, watch-me-wax-wise blanket on things, don't you think that when the extrovert finds out that that doesn't work and when the introvert finds out that that doesn't work -- when either of these recognizes that the waters are not yet stilled -- well, maybe Buddhism starts to make some sense? Uncertainty -- or suffering, if you prefer -- is not limited to any particular kind of person, though how they cope with that uncertainty varies.

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:39 am

Sure Genkaku... I just think each type of person is likely to look for answers to their problems in different ways - some internal, some external.

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:00 am

The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:22 pm

I can identify with that. For me solitude even in temporary seperation for hours or days from loved ones, comes naturally. I love my own company. In order to engage with people outside the front door I have to take a deep breath first...then its fine. I am not agoraphobic, its just not my first choice left to my own devices. So I work on making sure that I balance my inbuilt preference with a need to interact and engage. I belong to a large Sangha and am part of a large family so opportunities to confront my own "rhino " tendencies are not lacking..
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby pink_trike » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:23 pm

Vision is Mind
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Clear Light is Union
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:04 am

there are also ambiverts, those with qualities of both


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

Postby Sanghamitta » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:39 am

If we imagine a spectrum from 1 to 10, 1 being total Extrovert and 10 being total Introvert ambiverts cover the areas from 4 to 6, so in total they are in the majority, although a 4 will be more Extrovert and a 6 more Introvert.
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Re: Extraverts in Buddhism?

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