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Abandoning hindrances

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Abandoning hindrances

Postby Brizzy » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:52 am

Hi everyone

This is my first post on this forum, and since my ideas tend to cause slight controversy within a classical Theravadin forum, I thought this post would be better in the "free for all".
My question is for people who undertake meditation, especially the Goenka or Mahasi tradition - How are you taught to "Abandon the Hindrances"? I have my own take on how to "Abandon the Hindrances" - but would like to hear other peoples views first.

Thanks :smile:

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Re: Abandoning hindrances

Postby Ben » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:00 am

Hi Brizzy!
Rather than ask what other people think, why not just come out and tell us what you think!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Welcome! :hello:
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Re: Abandoning hindrances

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:51 pm

Hi Brizzy,

There is plenty of literature on Mahasi medition, so it seems pointless to write an essay on it... Here are U Pandita's thoughts on Hindrances (and other problems):
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pesala/Pan ... /mara.html

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Brizzy » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:39 am

Hi mike

"As Tilt says, there is nothing contradictory. Noting is just a training technique to focus on the object. Walking slowly is another possible training technique."
My point is that these training techniques are not found in the suttas and since these training techniques form the basis for the Mahasi method, I dont think they can be casually overlooked. As far as your quote from MN10 goes, my point is that the bhikkhu is involving the thought/reflection/contemplation process and not just employing bare awareness as is often taught.

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