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Abandoning hindrances

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Abandoning hindrances

Postby Ben » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:09 am

Thank you Mike for your excellent post!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Hi

I said I would post my understandings.......... Remember, my personal view is that the suttas describe them perfectly already, but some people insist on me using my own words, which could lead to misunderstanding of what I actually mean/they actually mean. Bearing that in mind.....

Right Effort :-

Prevent the unwholesome that has not yet arisen in oneself.
Let go of the unwholesome that has arisen in oneself.
Bring up the wholesome that has not yet arisen in oneself.
Maintain the wholesome that has arisen in oneself.

Right Mindfulness :-

After hearing the Dhamma the meditator sits in seclusion, he recollects that Dhamma & thinks it over. ( the four frames of reference are just that, he would refer the dhamma to the foundations of mindfulness).

Right Investigation :-

Whilst dwelling mindfully the meditator examines that dhamma and makes a full investigation.

Right Concentration:-

Is the four jhanas. The suttas describe them perfectly time and time again. They are states within which the mind and body reach more and more sublime levels of peace, from within which one can discriminate with wisdom.
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Re: Abandoning hindrances

Postby Ben » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:07 am

Greetings Brizzy
Could you please do us all a favour and attribute that translation or please indicate that it is a personal paraphrasing.
Thanks

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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