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unravelling the mysteries of mind & body through abhidhamma

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unravelling the mysteries of mind and body through abhidhamma by sayalay susila
is the book i'm cureently working on now
anyone read this book? any thoughts on it? i'm not that far into it i started yesterday and i'm taking it little by little
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Hi JC,
jcsuperstar wrote:anyone read this book? any thoughts on it?
No, I haven't heard of the book or its author, but I should be interested to hear more when you've finished it. Or even as you're reading it, if you should chance across anything of interest.

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when she's telling stories fom the suttas to show how this makes sense, then it does make sense. when its all rupa kalapas and different kinds of bhavangas and javana it gets confusing...

at first when i was reading about the kalapas i was all like, wtf? is this real? does this make sense in a scientific way? i used to work at for a genetics and biology journal, i should know if this is real or not. then i was reminded that i have no idea whats going on at a sub atomic level....
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also its an inward path book, would you like me to try to get you one?
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Hi JC,
jcsuperstar wrote:also its an inward path book, would you like me to try to get you one?
If it's not too much trouble. Thank you. :smile:

Kalāpas are cool.

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What's a kalapa? From here:
U Ba Khin wrote:The Buddha taught His disciples that everything that exists at the material level is composed of "Kalapas." Kalapas are material units very much smaller than atoms, which die out immediately after they come into being. Each kalapa is a mass formed of the eight basic constituents of matter, the solid, liquid, calorific and oscillatory, together with color, smell, taste, and nutriment. The first four are called primary qualities, and are predominant in a kalapa. The other four are subsidiaries, dependent upon and springing from the former. A kalapa is the minutest particle in the physical plane — still beyond the range of science today. It is only when the eight basic material constituents unite together that the kalapa is formed. In other words, the momentary collocation of these eight basic elements of behavior makes a man just for that moment, which in Buddhism is known as a kalapa. The life-span of a kalapa is termed a moment, and a trillion such moments are said to elapse during the wink of a man's eye. These kalapas are all in a state of perpetual change or flux.
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Peter wrote:What's a kalapa? From here:
U Ba Khin wrote:The Buddha taught His disciples that everything that exists at the material level is composed of "Kalapas." Kalapas are material units very much smaller than atoms, which die out immediately after they come into being. Each kalapa is a mass formed of the eight basic constituents of matter, the solid, liquid, calorific and oscillatory, together with color, smell, taste, and nutriment. The first four are called primary qualities, and are predominant in a kalapa. The other four are subsidiaries, dependent upon and springing from the former. A kalapa is the minutest particle in the physical plane — still beyond the range of science today. It is only when the eight basic material constituents unite together that the kalapa is formed. In other words, the momentary collocation of these eight basic elements of behavior makes a man just for that moment, which in Buddhism is known as a kalapa. The life-span of a kalapa is termed a moment, and a trillion such moments are said to elapse during the wink of a man's eye. These kalapas are all in a state of perpetual change or flux.
I mean really, is there anything that the Buddha did not teach? This was 2500 years ago and he was still ahead of even the science of today. Unbelievable. Buddha :bow: :bow: :bow:

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Hello jc, all,

How did the book go? Have you finished it
I found this description of the book "
UNRAVELLING THE MYSTERIES OF MIND AND BODY THROUGH ABHIDHAMMA - Sayalay Susima
http://www.inwardpath.org/ipp2u/catalog ... c7be9b254c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sayalay Susima shared some of her Abhidhamma teachings here:
http://www.dhammaweb.net/dhammadb/autho ... %20Sayalay" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Hello jcsuperstar,

Did you manage to get a copy of the book to Ven. Dhammanando? And having read it yourself, what is your opinion of it?

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bodom_bad_boy wrote:
Peter wrote:What's a kalapa? From here:
U Ba Khin wrote:The Buddha taught His disciples that everything that exists at the material level is composed of "Kalapas." Kalapas are material units very much smaller than atoms, which die out immediately after they come into being. Each kalapa is a mass formed of the eight basic constituents of matter, the solid, liquid, calorific and oscillatory, together with color, smell, taste, and nutriment. The first four are called primary qualities, and are predominant in a kalapa. The other four are subsidiaries, dependent upon and springing from the former. A kalapa is the minutest particle in the physical plane — still beyond the range of science today. It is only when the eight basic material constituents unite together that the kalapa is formed. In other words, the momentary collocation of these eight basic elements of behavior makes a man just for that moment, which in Buddhism is known as a kalapa. The life-span of a kalapa is termed a moment, and a trillion such moments are said to elapse during the wink of a man's eye. These kalapas are all in a state of perpetual change or flux.
I mean really, is there anything that the Buddha did not teach? This was 2500 years ago and he was still ahead of even the science of today. Unbelievable. Buddha :bow: :bow: :bow:

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