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Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

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Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

Postby Dugu » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:31 am

When I read the Sutras, I get the impression Buddha's Enlightenment is somehow higher in the sense he can see everything in completion as compare to Arahans. Why is that?

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

Postby pilgrim » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:54 am

My understanding is that the Buddha is a Samma-sambudha, a thoroughly perfected being whose achievement cannot be surpassed. In the process of becoming a Buddha , he destroys the 10 fetters that bind one to samsara.

An arahant has destroyed the 10 fetters only. That achievement is enough to stop rebirth in samsara, but an arahant does not have the other qualities of a samma-sambuddha.

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

Postby Dugu » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:18 am

What's the meaning behind the word "Arahan"? I noticed the Buddha refers to all his followers who attain liberation as Arahan, while he would distinguish himself with a different title.

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

Postby PeterB » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:33 am

Thats what I was taught too. The Buddhas enlightenment does not differ from the Arahants, But a Buddha arises without having association with an Arahant. However no Buddha, no Arahant in any given era. Or is that too simplified ?

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Re: Why the Buddha's Enlightenment seems higher than Arahan's?

Postby Dugu » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:15 am

Is Enlightenment a form of awareness through direct experience of the mind?

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