Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

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Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:56 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:58 am

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:24 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby BlackBird » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:17 am

"He who neither goes too far nor lags behinds."

Is this a reference to the middle way?

Ven. Thanissaro's version of this line further perplexes me.

Do we have the pali text?

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby Waterearth » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:07 am

Such a person would have to feel really well all the time. He/she would be without inner conflicts and at peace with him/herself.
I do recognise the qualities described within myself but i can't say that i can manifest them all the time or always perfectly.
So i guess there is still work to be done!
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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:07 pm

Ven nananda is an amazing monastic. His insight and knowledge is incomparable. The nibbana sermons are a true gift to humanity from someone leaving it behind. I hope we are fortunate enough to see it's true value.
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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:27 pm

Greetings RYB,

I agree whole-heartedly. It is good that his Nibbana Sermons are now available online in English, but also rather unfortunate that they have seemingly not been published in book form, because they deserve to be!

Given that I prefer reading off paper so that I can read on public transport, I had to resort to printing them out, hole punching them, and putting them in a ring-binder. Even now if they were printed properly in book form, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase them. They are truly excellent, and venerable Nanananda's teachings are a shining beacon of light.

:reading:

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby BlackBird » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:07 am

Hi RYB, Retro.

I thought about making a similar point on several occasions. In any case, you have said all that I wanted to say anyway, so I'll leave it at: I concur wholeheartedly.

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby Ben » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:38 am

This would have to rate as one of my favourite suttas.
Though I would have to say I prefer Nyanaponika Thera's rendering than Ven Thanissaro's.
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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:40 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby 8fold » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:35 am

...perhaps a monk can live such a life.

Can a lay person who has to earn a living live such a life?

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Re: Sn 1.1: Uraga Sutta — The Snake

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:47 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine


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