If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

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If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby Dugu » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:46 am

Just curious which tradition would you guys have pick if there was no Theravada. :smile:

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:20 am

Greetings,

(Old school) Ch'an or Zen.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby jcsuperstar » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:11 am

i started in zen, and was quite happy there, i only ended up in theravada because i had a ticket to thailand and decided to use my time there visiting and living in temples... so if no theravada then it'd still be zen
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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby EricJ » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:02 am

Well, I am not "officially" Theravadin (yet), but I will give my opinion anyway.

Probably Tibetan or Shingon. Vajrayana seems to have quite an array of meditative practices, both samatha and vipassana, which appeal to me more than the single practice methods of Chan/Zen or the pure devotionalism of Pure Land/Nichiren. I must admit that I also find the rituals, philosophy and theories behind tantric practice pretty captivating.
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With persistence aroused for the highest goal's attainment, with mind unsmeared, not lazy in action, firm in effort, with steadfastness & strength arisen, wander alone like a rhinoceros.

Not neglecting seclusion, absorption, constantly living the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma, comprehending the danger in states of becoming, wander alone like a rhinoceros.
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:20 am

Sautrāntika

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Postby pink_trike » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:11 am

Tibetan Bon Dzogchen.
Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby Vardali » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:24 am

Anyrhing with a strong focus on the teachings with no frills.
Rituals and guru "worship" are a bit of a turnoff for me.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:07 am

Heedless hedonism.
If there was no Theravada I wouldnt bother. For me its the only logical coherent approach to life.

I am aware that other alternatives are on offer.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby cooran » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:17 am

I would have remained an ardent practising Christian (Anglican).
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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby BlackBird » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:47 am

I guess. Not that I know anything about it.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:06 am

The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

Bhikku Bodhi.

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Re: If there was no Theravada, which tradition would you pick?

Postby Moggalana » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:16 am

Probably Mahamudra (Kagyü school of tibetan buddhism) or Dzogchen (Nyingma school of tibetan buddhism).
Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.

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Postby Dhammanando » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:32 am

Stoicism.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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