Did Buddha Really Say This?

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Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby fragrant herbs » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:34 pm

I read in a novel that Buddha said, "You are Gods yourself." Did he really say this? If so, where? Thanks.
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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby Laurens » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:46 pm

fragrant herbs wrote:I read in a novel that Buddha said, "You are Gods yourself." Did he really say this? If so, where? Thanks.


I've never personally heard such a quote. But I cannot be 100% sure - having not read the entire Pali canon. To me it seems unlikely.

Which book was it in and in what context was the quote given?
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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:47 pm

fragrant herbs wrote:I read in a novel that Buddha said, "You are Gods yourself." Did he really say this? If so, where? Thanks.

Which novel by whom?

Did the Buddha say that? Not in any of the early recorded traditions available.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby enkidu » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:51 pm

In a lot of fiction, novels, movies and so on, many sensational and false things are said about or on behalf of the Buddha.
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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:16 pm

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel, Fragrant Herbs :)
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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:45 pm

Possible a very poor translation of Dhammapada v 160:
Attā hi attano nātho, ko hi nātho paro siyā.
Attanā hi sudantena, nāthaṃ labhati dullabhaṃ.

Oneself is one’s own refuge, what other refuge could there be?
With oneself well controlled one obtains a refuge hard to gain.

Nātha can also be translated as Lord or Master, so you are the Lord of yourself, you are your own master. There is no Lord or God who is your master. In other words, you alone are responsible for your own happiness and sorrow, and master of your own destiny.
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Re: Did Buddha Really Say This?

Postby fragrant herbs » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:46 pm

Thanks for the welcome.

Thanks for the answers. I read it in Angels and Demons but have heard it for years, and when I went to look it up the only other person that said it was Sai Baba.
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