Four/two postures

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Four/two postures

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:07 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Four/two postures

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:35 am

Greetings Manapa,

Yes. The Satipatthana Sutta says that one must do these things "fully alert". ;)

Sure, the Buddha gave instructions on being dispassionate about food (as recently discussed elsewhere) but in the context of satipatthana, it's the "fully alert" that is the significant aspect... the postures are noted just a list of possible everyday actions and configurations of the body.

They are by no means exhaustve, hence the concluding refrain "Or however his body is disposed, that is how he discerns it. In this way he remains focused internally on the body in & of itself, or focused externally... unsustained by anything in the world. This is how a monk remains focused on the body in & of itself."

Metta,
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Re: Four/two postures

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Re: Four/two postures

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:15 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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