Jhanas in lying meditation

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Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby pescador » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:32 pm

Do you know if is it possible to achive jhanas doing only lying meditation on a bed? Is it possible to achieve them only doing walking meditation?

Do any of you practice lying or walking meditation daily?

Thank you and sorry for the typos.

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby Guy » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:10 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby pescador » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:05 pm

Thank you, guys.

I'm curious about the monk who achive jhanas doing walking meditation, so if any of you can confirm his existence, I'd like to hear about him.

(There're really interesting people living in monasteries. I wonder why films directors don't make documentaries about them).

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Postby Kare » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:35 pm

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby Guy » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:35 am

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

- Ajahn Brahm

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby Laurens » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:03 am

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to attain jhana whilst lying down, although for the umteenth I shall mention the sleepiness issue, the trouble is we associate laying down with going to sleep, so this makes it easier for us to fall asleep in this posture.

I would say if you can't sit upright on a cushion, sit on a chair, if you can't do a chair, then consider lying down, I wouldn't say it was the ideal posture to use as one's main meditation posture.

I don't think it's possible to attain jhana it walking meditation because one's is up and moving, eyes open, and this, I understand makes it quite impossible to attain jhana.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

Postby Laurens » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:15 am

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

Carl Sagan

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Postby suriyopama » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:22 am

Remember Ananda: he was neither lying, walking, sitting or standing when he attained something much higher than a transitory Jahna. He attained Nibbana while he was in movement, going to lay down after walking.
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Postby Modus.Ponens » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:11 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Jhanas in lying meditation

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"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

Carl Sagan


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