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psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Monkey Mind » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:00 pm

"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby LauraJ » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:26 pm

I agree about the extraneous noise. My previous post was an attempt to bring the question down to a practical level, not some worst-case-scenario stuff. Nevertheless, I can completely see where Peter got offended. He and his cohorts were being stereotyped and projected upon.

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Conquer the angry man by love. Conquer the ill-natured man by goodness. Conquer the miser with generosity. Conquer the liar with truth. -The Dhammapada

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby LauraJ » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:52 pm

Yes, I don't know if people realize this. But being dismissive about the impact that this sort of suffering can have on someone's life is a form of shaming, or at least definitely moving into that general area.

And to suggest that taking necessary medications as prescribed is a breach of lay precepts is just ridiculous and offensive to those who take them and need them. For many people practicing Buddhism is a lot more within reach if the head is more clear. I think this whole idea is insensitive. Let's not blame people who live with mental illness for their symptoms. Thanks.



Conquer the angry man by love. Conquer the ill-natured man by goodness. Conquer the miser with generosity. Conquer the liar with truth. -The Dhammapada

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby LauraJ » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:53 pm

Since I have no interest in puffing my ego and people seem to listen to a patient more than a provider, that's the voice I've chosen.
As long as it gets heard I don't care which avenue I need to take.

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Conquer the angry man by love. Conquer the ill-natured man by goodness. Conquer the miser with generosity. Conquer the liar with truth. -The Dhammapada

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby PeterB » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:33 pm

Thank you Anna I will give it a try.

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Alex123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:44 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Euclid » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:03 pm

I'm skeptical. Is it any surprise that people on antidepressants are violent? It's like saying pain killers cause pain, because everybody who takes painkillers are suffering from pain.

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Alex123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:10 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Jhana4 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:58 pm

The word chosen for the translation is "intoxicants". Psychiatric drugs don't intoxicate people, it helps them cope with illness.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

Postby Alex123 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:04 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: psychiatric drugs and the fifth precept

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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