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Why did you choose Theravada?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby pink_trike » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:11 am

All the Buddhist traditions are teaching exactly the same thing - with different form. Form is emptiness...
Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby pink_trike » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:53 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Ben » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:57 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:19 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Paññāsikhara » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:40 am

Looks like an interesting book. I haven't read it, but it's on .

Looking at the contents, it is even more interesting that the first two chapters are on the Lotus Sutra. Why interesting? Because for a long time now, scholars have been telling us that the Lotus Sutra is not really that typical for Mahayana, despite it becoming very popular in Japan, which is the place where Western scholars and practitioners first made contact with the Mahayana.

So, I am wondering if he does a lot of "Well, the Lotus Sutra says XXX", and "because XXX is dubious, false, or whatever", that "therefore the Mahayana is also dubious, false or whatever, too". I see a lot of arguments like that around, not just in books but anywhere where such conversation may come up, which assume that all the Mahayana is summarized in the Lotus (simply because it says so). The Vimalakirti is also quite an exception, too.

So, although certain arguments can be leveled against groups that follow these sutras as foremost and paramount within the Mahayana, I don't know how much this can be generalized into the Mahayana as a whole. First though, one would have to show that the Mahayana was a "whole". And most evidence suggests otherwise. Over extension of conclusions from limited evidence and sources can be a big problem in academic studies, or, in fact, even in regular day to day discourse.
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cafael Dust » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:47 am

Titbillings: the first review of the text seems to echo my concerns about the Lotus Sutra. The book could be a good read, but as I said earlier, the battle itself can distract one from the goal.
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cafael Dust » Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:34 am

:tongue: :jumping:

You know, I've been reading your posts for some time at E-Sangha and I always mentally went 'Titbillings', because I thought it was funny. Busted.
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cafael Dust » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:04 pm

Not twice, not three times, not once,
the wheel is turning.

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cafael Dust » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:23 pm

Lol, no, it was nothing personal about your posting style, just the name itself. Actually, the only thing I ever disagreed with about your arguments on the equality of Arhats and Buddhas was a. that you didn't go far enough (to me a Buddha is a Buddha is a Buddha. My experiences with practice suggest that categorising enlightened beings at all is missing the point of anatta), and b. that you seemed, as I can be, at times emotionally attached to the argument itself.
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby alan » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:12 pm

Hi All.
I must apologize for my final post last night. I was tired and testy.
Sorry!

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby alan » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:22 pm

I was also not clear when I said "convert me, if you like that idea".
It was meant to create some momentum. I'm already converted; no Mahayana troll am I.

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby Cafael Dust » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:32 pm

I wouldn't worry about it. IMHO too many people on Buddhist forums second guess people instead of answering or not answering, as they see fit. But it's an internet thing, not a Buddhist thing - so many trolls and hidden agendas floating around in the world where talk is so very cheap. People get itchy trigger fingers. It's like the wild west out here :guns: .
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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby pink_trike » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:37 pm

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.


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