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Why did you choose Theravada?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby pink_trike » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:57 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Postby Tex » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:31 am

Might this topic of the historical Buddha's existence be worth splitting off from the main topic, since both topics are worth continuing? Just a thought.

I'm not surprised to hear that there is debate over whether or not Gotama was a real person -- philosophers have speculated for ages that Socrates was not a real person, but rather a literary device employed by Plato in his dialogues. Since both Socrates and Gotama lived around 2500 years ago, and almost no one from 2500 years ago can be "proven" to have existed, I guess it makes sense.

Anyway, though I'm not surprised to learn of this debate, I must confess to knowing nothing about Sanskrit historical scholarship. And googling "Did Buddha exist" turns up a ridiculous amount of hits, most of which have nothing to do with the question, so if anyone can point me to some links dealing with this I'd be very curious to read more and would appreciate the guidance in advance.
"To reach beyond fear and danger we must sharpen and widen our vision. We have to pierce through the deceptions that lull us into a comfortable complacency, to take a straight look down into the depths of our existence, without turning away uneasily or running after distractions." -- Bhikkhu Bodhi

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus

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Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby pink_trike » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:02 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby BlackBird » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:15 am

Did a bit of a search round the internet, couldn't find much that wasn't marred with opinion, nothing factual in any case.

Buddha-denial
...and you thought rebirth-denial was bad...

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby BlackBird » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:40 am

I think it has a lot to do with projection TheReductor.

In these situations it's very easy to project what emotions you think the other party is feeling. In a disagreement over the internet it may be that both people initially project that the other person must be angry, when in fact neither are, and thus it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Tilt certainly doesn't mash his words, neither does PT, which is perhaps why this whole situation might seem a little angsty, but that may not be the case.

I've got an idea, let's ask these two gentlemen how they feel:

Tilt, are you angry?
Pink Trike, are you angry?

Are either of you harboring resentment?

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Why did you choose Theravada?

Postby pink_trike » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:43 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.


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