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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:13 am

Thanks Venerable!

Can you say what is the relationship between this Sutra and those translated from Chinese by Thich Nhat Hanh in "Breath! You are alive: Sutra on the full awareness of breathing"? He has his own translation of the Anapanasati Sutta and also an appendix with extracts from what he says are the Samyutaka Agama (Tsa A Han, cahpter 29, Taisho Revised Tripitika, number 99). The particular Sutras are numbers 815, 803, and 810. It's 803 that has the four tetrads and there are differences between this and the Pali version.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Ben » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:26 am

Thank you Venerable!
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Learn this from the waters:
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My recently moved Blog, containing some of my writings on the Buddha Dhamma, as well as a number of translations from classical Buddhist texts and modern authors, liturgy, etc.: .

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:18 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby zavk » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:42 pm

Most excellent! I've benefitted greatly from Ven. Analayo's work. Do keep us updated if you manage to get in touch with him and find out more about the history of U Ba Khin's approach to meditation, Ben.
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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Mawkish1983 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:48 pm

Wow! So much praise for this book! I'm definately going to have another attempt at this book when I get the chance.

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:11 am

Thank-you Paññāsikhara
I am looking for my glasses though :stirthepot:


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby bodom » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:26 pm

Does anyone know of any links to actual medtitation instruction by Ven. Analayo. I am curious as to what type of meditation Analayo practices and teaches. I believe he may practice in Mahasi's tradition as he notes in this book on the usefulness of noting and labelling in meditation practice.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:40 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby bodom » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:58 pm

I came across a website saying he teaches at a place called Levalla Meditation Centre but i cant find any info on the place.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby cooran » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:25 pm

Hello all,

Try faxing this centre for more information on his current contact numbers:

Levalla Meditation Centre, 160 Dharmashoka Mawatha, Kandy 20000,
Tel. ( 7-12 am ) 08-225471
Fax ( 1- 6 pm ) 08-225471
At northern boundary of the 'Udavattakale Sanctuary' A Meditation Centre connected with Nilambe, mainly for lay-people, 4 kutis also possible for monks Ven.Analayo, a German monk, is in charge of the place. It is best to visit in the morning from 8 am-1pm, after that Ven Analayo retires into the silence of the upper kuti area until next dawn.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:dV ... clnk&gl=au

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:27 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Moggalana » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:42 pm

According to this , Bhikkhu Analayo is currently working as a private lecturer at the University of Hamburg, doing research work at (Taiwan), and teaching in Sri Lanka. But there is no direct contact information. His book does certainly sound interesting. It's already on my amazon wishlist, but maybe I'll wait for the German translation.
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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:53 pm

Thanks Moggalana
It might be worth waiting for the German translation - I take it that German is your native language?
The book is excellent but information dense and I imagine you'll find it easier to digest in your native language.
Thanks also for Ven Analayo's profile page at Uni of Hamburg and Dharma Drum Buddhist College. Manapa had already posted those earlier but I do appreciate the effort you have gone to to assist me.
metta

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby bodom » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:50 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:47 am

hi Ben,
It would supprise me if he was a teacher of Goenka, although it wouldn't supprise me if he had in the past! or used goenkas style as a template of sorts to teach his style. I do hope someone finds a pdf of his 'lesson plan' it would be interesting to compare with my own practice (not like I don't need to push further :juggling: )


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby adeh » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:51 am

Hi Ben, just to say that I've read the book four times in the last two years.....it's one of my favorites and a constant reference..I can't wait for him to write something else..with Metta, Adeh.

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Re: Satipatthana: the direct path to realization

Postby Rhino » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:52 pm

With best wishes

Only in a vertical view, straight down into the abyss of his own personal existence, is a man capable of apprehending the perilous insecurity of his situation; and only a man who does apprehend this is prepared to listen to the Buddha's Teaching.


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