Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby phil » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:57 am

Hi all

Sorry if someone's already referred to this (don't see a link) but here's a great sutta about not falling into the bondage represented by one's sexual identity.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Metta,

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:43 pm

I am starting to see a trend here with your posting. The first concerning women's superiority to men and now that Buddhism is superior to other religions. All these labels you throw around, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, man, woman are nothing but conventions, labels. They do nothing but reinforce the view of self, conciet and arrogance.

"The things of this world are merely conventions of our own making. Having established them we get lost in them, and refuse to let go, giving rise to clinging to our personal views and opinions. This clinging never ends, it is samsara,flowing endlessly on. It has no completion. Now, if we know conventional reality then we'll know Liberation. If we clearly know Liberation, then we'll know convention. This is to know the Dhamma. Here there is completion." - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:45 pm

Accepting, giving up, letting go — this is the way of lightness. Wherever you're clinging there's becoming and birth right there. There's danger right there. The Buddha taught about convention and he taught to undo convention in the right way, and so reach Liberation. This is freedom, not to cling to conventions. All things in this world have a conventional reality. Having established them we should not be fooled by them, because getting lost in them really leads to suffering. This point concerning rules and conventions is of utmost importance. One who can get beyond them is beyond suffering. - Ajahn Chah

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Btw, could you reduce your avatar please? It makes it hard to read your posts.
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Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:17 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:29 pm

bbb,

Good quotes from Ajahn Chah. But didn't the Buddha say discard the raft (Dhamma) after we have reached the other shore?

Some clinging and choice of Buddhism over other religions is to be expected to get us on the Path and going on the Path. Once at the other shore, we can drop those conventions and speak more in terms of ultimate truth.
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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:42 pm

Thats right david he did but also said... There are five ideas that ripen here and now in two ways. What five? Faith, preference, hearsay-learning, arguing upon evidence, and liking through pondering a view. Now something may have faith well placed in it and yet be hollow, empty, and false; and again something may have no faith placed in it and yet be factual, true, and no other than it seems; and so with preference and the rest. If a man has faith, then he guards truth when he says, "My faith is thus," but on that account draws no unreserved conclusion, "Only this is true, the other is wrong." In this way he guards the truth; but there is as yet no discovery of truth. And so with preference and the rest.

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:18 pm

Its not so much that Buddhism is superior to religions imo. Its that Buddhism is the only place in this world system to connect with Buddhadhamma.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby Sanghamitta » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:19 pm

Not sure what you mean there David.
The going for refuge is the door of entrance to the teachings of the Buddha.

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:37 pm

In the Satipatthana Sutta the Buddha states:

"This is the only way . . ."

implying that all paths "don't lead to the mountaintop." But in Thanissaro's translation, it is put as:

"This is the direct path . . ."

Anyone from any religion can get to heaven, but there is a specific path to Nibbana.

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:07 pm

Hi David,
This is the only way & direct path are referring to the eightfold path, the Buddha uses this phrase a number of times in the suttas and is always referring to the 8FP when he does. Ajahn Brahm (off the top of my head) in his newsletter paper on satipatthana has a couple of references to other places this is used, although I disagree with his interpretation of two of the suttas he uses to back up one of his interpretation later in the paper.


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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:24 pm

Anabel if you are asking why i am here it is because i have taken refuge in the Buddha and his teachings, but because i choose the path of Buddhism does not mean i am at liberty to tell a billion followers of Christanity and Islam that there religion is wrong or not as peaceful as mine (mine is better than yours ) because there history has been marred by some unfortunate events.

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Does Buddhism mean we "become" more 'feminine'?

Postby bodom » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:28 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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