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Buddha encountering rude people

Postby Luke » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:10 pm

I was wondering if there are any stories about people being incredibly rude to Shakyamuni Buddha (either verbally or physically) in the Pali Canon. I would be very interested to see how the Noble One (or a disciple of his) reacted in such situations and how he dealt with such rude people.

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:13 pm

There is a famous story of such an encounter between the Buddha and a ‘difficult person’ named Akkosina.Akkosina’s name means “Not Getting Angry” but he was the exact opposite of his name. Akkosina was easily angered and was always angry about something or someone. When he heard that the Buddha did not get angry with anyone he immediately decided to visit him. He went up to the Buddha and scolded him for all sorts of things, insulting him and calling him awful names. At the end of this angry speech, the Buddha asked this man if he had any friends or relatives. “Yes.” Akokosina replied. “When you visit them, do you take them gifts?” the Buddha asked. “Of course, I always bring them gifts.” The angry man replied. “Then what happens if they don’t accept your gifts?” The Buddha asked. “Well I take them home and enjoy them with my own family” “And likewise,” said the Buddha, “You have brought me a gift here today that I do not accept, and so you may take that gift home to your family.”
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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:30 pm

There is another story from the Buddhas life that teaches us how to responds to insults and harsh words. The Buddhas rivals had bribed a postitue named cinca to insult and humiliate the Buddha, Cinca tied a bunch of sticks to her belly underneath her rough clothes in order to look like she was pregnant. While the Buddha was delivering a sermon to hundreds of people, she came right out in front of him and said "You rogue. You pretend to be a saint preaching to all these people. But look what you have done to me! I am pregnant because of you." Calmly, the Buddha spoke to her, without anger, without hatred. With his voice full of lovingkindness and compasion, he said to her, "Sister, you and i are the only ones who know what has happened." Cinca was taken aback by the Buddhas response. She was so shocked that on the way back she she stumbled. The strings that were holding the bundle of sticks to her belly came loose. All the sticks fell to the ground, and everyone realized her ruse,
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:34 pm

Several people in the audience wanted to beat her, but the Buddha stopped them. "No, no. That is not the way you should treat her. We should help her understand the Dhamma. That is a much more effective punishment." After the Buddha taught her the Dhamma, her entire personality changed. She too became gentle, kind, and compassionate. This story is told by Gunaratana in his book Minfulness in Plain English.

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:51 pm

Those are good examples, bbb. I have sometimes wondered what would have happened if she really was pregnant (not from the Buddha, of course, but from another man). It would have been much harder for the Buddha to clear his name.

There are also the assassination attempts by Devadatta, which the Buddha endured with equanimity.
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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby cooran » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:56 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:56 pm

Also see this story. Click on the link Unresentful.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... nresentful

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:59 pm

Thanks for posting the sutta chris i couldnt remember where it was in the nikayas.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby cooran » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:04 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby Monkey Mind » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:28 am

"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:44 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:02 pm

Devadatta himself tried to kill the Buddha. When the Buddha was walking on the Vultures' Rock, Devadatta climbed to the peak and hurled a huge stone at the Buddha. On its way down, the rock struck another rock and a splinter flew and wounded the Buddha's foot, causing blood to flow. The Buddha looked up and seeing Devadatta, he remarked with pity, "Foolish man, you have done many unwholesome deeds for harming the Buddha."

Cv 7:3

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/bud ... d_lt28.htm

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:58 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby withoutcolour » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:37 am

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Re: Buddha encountering rude people

Postby halaha » Sun May 21, 2017 10:42 am

Kasibharajjavada sutta > Uraga Vagga > Kud :reading: :reading: dhaka Nikaya is another good example of a person being rude to the Buddha.

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