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The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby Fede » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:33 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:04 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:14 pm

I dont think it is altogether necessary for us to use via negativa language. We can point out that to those who knew the Buddha personally he was supremely kind, calm and compassionate. While these qualities could be discerned objectively, it is clear that there was no identification on the side of the Buddha with them. While we always say something from a conceptual point of view or at some level rest our way of perceiving in some kind of axiomatic paradigm, the Buddha did not. This is why the Buddha could not suffer. I think that this is all we need to know about the Buddha and his doctrine.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:20 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:36 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:38 pm

Isnt our "true nature" no nature. Or rather our true nature is conditioned arising. Buddhas arise in the world by knowing what cannot be known by any characteristics. The world can be known by limitless characteristics which are all conditionally arisen. They all have no self nature and that is their nature thus "Buddha Nature". I do see that this way of teaching is highly prone to problematic interpretations and in my opinion probably only suitable to those who have developed a strong faith in the Buddhas achievements If at all.


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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The negative language of Theravada.

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