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need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby uragamuni » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:48 am

Hi! First a little context: after much planning and preparation some days ago I sent a letter to the Guest Monk of Wat Pah Nanachat asking to be able to visit them, as instructed in their website. Given how unreliable is our national postal service I decided to send it by FedEx... So far so good.

The problem is: after more than three weeks FedEx has so far failed to deliver the envelope...

They first told me that there wasn't anybody to receive it in the specified address (the one shown in the WPN website). Can that be true...? Anyway, they asked me a phone number to program the delivery and I gave them the one that I found in the website http://www.retreat-infos.de: 045-4000-15, but... they now say that the phone number is incorrect and are asking me a new one.

Sooo: does anybody know the phone number I should give FedEx? Is there any additional directions I should give them?

Thanks in advance,
Mario

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby appicchato » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:32 pm

Mario,

Planning and preparation...for what?...if you want to stay at WPN, just get yourself a visa and go...if you're earnest, and convey that earnestness to them, they won't turn you away...

I have the same contact information as you so am unable to offer an alternative other than the above...

Wishing you well...

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Postby Anders » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:33 pm

appicchato wrote:Mario,

Planning and preparation...for what?...if you want to stay at WPN, just get yourself a visa and go...if you're earnest, and convey that earnestness to them, they won't turn you away...

I have the same contact information as you so am unable to offer an alternative other than the above...

Wishing you well...


It's been a few years, but I can vouch for the effectiveness of bhante's suggestion from then.

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby uragamuni » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:58 pm

appicchato wrote:Mario,

Planning and preparation...for what?...if you want to stay at WPN, just get yourself a visa and go...if you're earnest, and convey that earnestness to them, they won't turn you away...

I have the same contact information as you so am unable to offer an alternative other than the above...

Wishing you well...


The planning and preparation is not for the journey, but before the journey. I have ongoing responsabilities that I want/have to honor. If I will be away I have to transfer them to others...

Thanks bhante for your answer and the confirmation of the WPN contact info.

Mario

PS: Any additional hint will continue to be greatly appreciated!

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Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:11 pm

Try contacting one of the forest sangha monestaries http://www.forestsangha.org/
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
Blog, - Some Suttas Translated, Ajahn Chah.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby uragamuni » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:17 pm

Anders Honore wrote:
appicchato wrote:Mario,

Planning and preparation...for what?...if you want to stay at WPN, just get yourself a visa and go...if you're earnest, and convey that earnestness to them, they won't turn you away...

I have the same contact information as you so am unable to offer an alternative other than the above...

Wishing you well...


It's been a few years, but I can vouch for the effectiveness of bhante's suggestion from then.


Yes, I know it is! I'm not bothered by that part (being there, get accepted, etc), in the sense that is totally out of my control. When (or if!) I ever get there, I'll do my best as ever and see what happens... Whatever the outcome, it will be a learning experience. That notwithstanding, I couldn't do it if I don't leave everything arranged here so that I don't disrupt anybody's life. That's what I tried to convey (and failed! :lol:) with the phrase "planning and preparation"...

Thanks Anders for your comment!

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby uragamuni » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:20 pm

Manapa wrote:Try contacting one of the forest sangha monestaries http://www.forestsangha.org/


Yes, it's good idea! I'll do it right away. Thanks!

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Postby uragamuni » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:03 pm

uragamuni wrote:
Manapa wrote:Try contacting one of the forest sangha monestaries http://www.forestsangha.org/


Yes, it's good idea! I'll do it right away. Thanks!


Replying to myself here.

I had no luck... :thinking: From the auto-reply to the mail I sent:

The monastic community will be on silent retreat during the months of
January, February and March.
[...]
Starting from mid-March we will begin to reply to any correspondence,
and taking bookings for overnight guests, from the 1st of April.

Could they at WPN be on retreat too?
Perhaps that's why the courier couldn't deliver the letter nor contact them by phone, isn't it?

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Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:45 pm

uragamuni wrote:
uragamuni wrote:
Manapa wrote:Try contacting one of the forest sangha monestaries http://www.forestsangha.org/


Yes, it's good idea! I'll do it right away. Thanks!


Replying to myself here.

I had no luck... :thinking: From the auto-reply to the mail I sent:

The monastic community will be on silent retreat during the months of
January, February and March.
[...]
Starting from mid-March we will begin to reply to any correspondence,
and taking bookings for overnight guests, from the 1st of April.

Could they at WPN be on retreat too?
Perhaps that's why the courier couldn't deliver the letter nor contact them by phone, isn't it?

Which Monastery did you try?
I know amaravati is on retreat, but I don't think all of them are
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
Blog, - Some Suttas Translated, Ajahn Chah.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

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Postby uragamuni » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:04 am

Manapa wrote:Which Monastery did you try?
I know amaravati is on retreat, but I don't think all of them are


I tried with Amaravati, as you guessed :thumbsup:, and supposed that with the others would be the same. I'll try with another one. Thanks again!
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Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:15 am

uragamuni wrote:
Manapa wrote:Which Monastery did you try?
I know amaravati is on retreat, but I don't think all of them are


I tried with Amaravati, as you guessed :thumbsup:, and supposed that with the others would be the same. I'll try with another one. Thanks again!
Mario

it may depend on how they are set up there are ones all over, so just try each untill you get one.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
Blog, - Some Suttas Translated, Ajahn Chah.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby appicchato » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:10 am

uragamuni wrote:Could they at WPN be on retreat too?

Nay...my understanding is that the WPP branch temples (in England) take the three winter months (as noted) for their 'Vasa' (instead of the 'rainy' months found in Asia) because the weather is inclement then and 'suits' them better (for retreat) at that time...WPN observes their's during late summer and early fall ('monsoon')...

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Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:40 am

if you can't get hold of anyone let me know I have a contact who is at amaravati, on facebook!

possibly your best bet would be to try the Forest Hermitage http://foresthermitage.org.uk/ or one of the Lay organisations who are based at the monasteries, possibly ALBA
Amaravati Lay Buddhist Association.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:46 am

Hi Bhante
appicchato wrote:
uragamuni wrote:Could they at WPN be on retreat too?

Nay...my understanding is that the WPP branch temples (in England) take the three winter months (as noted) for their 'Vasa' (instead of the 'rainy' months found in Asia) because the weather is inclement then and 'suits' them better (for retreat) at that time...WPN observes their's during late summer and early fall ('monsoon')...

I believed it was just Amaravati & Chithurst who done this, not all.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
Blog, - Some Suttas Translated, Ajahn Chah.
"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby cooran » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:57 am

Hello Bhante and Manapa,

Certainly Dhammagiri in Brisbane, which is a WPP branch monastery is not taking these months as Vassa. We're sweltering in summer.

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby uragamuni » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:11 pm

The Guest Monk at WPN hast finally received my letter! :smile:
Many thanks to everyone...

Mario

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Postby cooran » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Hello uragamuni,

I very glad for you.

:clap:

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby Anders » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:20 pm

Good luck and happy mosquito bite scratching! :smile: :tongue:

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby TMDhamma » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:18 pm

uragamuni wrote:The Guest Monk at WPN hast finally received my letter! :smile:
Many thanks to everyone...

Mario


I'm leaving to Thailand early March and planing to go to wat pah nanachat for meditation.

you earlier mentioned that they have received your letter?
Have they replied on it?
as i do no have the month they recommended in on their website i was wondering whether
you have an idea how i could process?
can i go there without registration?
thank you for your advice
Barbara

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Re: need a little help reaching wat pah nanachat

Postby appicchato » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:49 pm

TMDhamma wrote:...can i go there without registration?

Yes...


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