Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

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Postby bodhabill » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:26 am

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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:09 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby appicchato » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:34 pm

I've been biting my tongue through much of this thread due to some really inane statements...but I will say that Sanitsuda Ekachai is a stand-up journalist who is a beacon of light in a dark night writing about this particular situation, and many others...

Before casting aspersions some might consider getting a (better) grip...

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby cooran » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:02 pm

Hello Bhante,

This is a discussion forum ~ obviously all posters don't hold identical opinions and view. Personal disparagement of the understanding of others is, of course, another matter. So ~ you don't agree with the Forest Sangha viewpoint? Is that just the Thai Sangha or the Worldwide Forest Sangha?

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Postby appicchato » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:37 am

Hi Chris,

I neither agree, nor disagree (and I would be/am happy to see bhikkhunis in the robes)...it is what it is...what my personal observation and experience tells me, having lived in Asia for quite a long time, is that the differences in thinking between the Oriental and Occidental are large and many...what I see coming is some kind of split...Thais will never (willingly) acquiesce to anything they consider an affront to them...the key figures in this MUST have known this...but forward we move... :smile:

Doesn't ALL of this rhubarb involve rite and ritual?...and haven't we been advised not to cling to closely to ANY rite or ritual?...

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Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:18 am

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Postby cooran » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:42 am

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Postby bodhabill » Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:57 am

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby jcsuperstar » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:26 pm

since this is intended for thai immigrants are they gonna make a thai version?
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Bhikkhuni Ordination: Letter from a Samaneri

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby suanck » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:47 pm

Hi all,

1) In the thread: "Ajahn Sumedho - On Gratitude"
(an interview by Lim Kooi Fong, The Buddhist Channel, January 20, 2010)

reposted on this website:



[you can read the original at: ]

Ven Ajahn Sumedho briefly presented his view on the issue of Bhikkhuni Ordination.

2) and following is the comment of a reader (PJ Pilgrim) in The Buddhist Channel:



Suan.

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Postby Bankei » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:31 am

There is also a new translation of a Thai newspaper article here http://sujato.wordpress.com/

It concerns WPP monks agitating for the removal of Brahm Bhikkhu's preceptor status. They want to override the vinaya.

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Postby notself » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:43 am

When the State names a specific religion as its official religion both the State and the religion are compromised.
Though one may conquer a thousand times a thousand men in battle, yet he is indeed the noblest victor who conquers himself. ---Dhp 103

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