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What position do you use for sitting meditation..... - Dhamma Wheel

What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.

What position do you use for sitting meditation?

Full Lotus
6
14%
Half Lotus
13
31%
Burmese
10
24%
Kneeling
6
14%
Chair
7
17%
 
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What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby salty-J » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:49 am

.....and as a follow up to the poll answer, do you feel using a chair has disadvantages?
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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:52 am

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:03 am

Half lotus right leg on top of left.

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Guy » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:23 am

Mostly chair, sometimes burmese. Like Retro I tend to have best results on a chair.
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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby salty-J » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:25 am

oops, I knew I was forgetting an option..... :embarassed:
The things I've read always list using a chair last, so that is why I am asking about any disadvantages.....
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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Lampang » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:50 am

Kneel, using a home-made bench.

I too got the impression that sitting in a chair was frowned on so I've avoided it.

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:01 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Reductor » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:25 am

Half lotus descriptions list the right leg on top of the left. I do left on right, 'cause my right doesn't fold down low enough (I think I messed it up as a kid).

Are there any specific reasons that right on left is preferred?

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:11 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby poto » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:58 am

These days it's usually a chair or a couch.

A few years ago I dislocated one of my knees and tore some cartilage. Since then I can't sit in half lotus without pain. Sitting in half lotus for a full meditation session would be very painful. I can manage to sit cross-legged for 10 or 20 minutes without pain sometimes now though. Over time my knee has gotten better, so maybe in a few more years I'll be able to sit in half lotus without pain again.

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Ben » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:01 am

Cross-legged doesn't appear on your poll so I can't vote. What I mean by cross-legged is probably the same as what Retro means. Leggs crossed below the calves with calves resting on the feet.
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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:02 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby salty-J » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:57 pm

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:54 pm

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby seanpdx » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:00 pm

Full lotus, no cushion. But I'm flexible, I like the stability of full lotus, my ankle bones get sore if I sit cross-legged too long, and I like the flexibility of not requiring a cushion to meditate. That said, I've been known to briefly meditate in any number of positions, depending on where I am, what I'm doing, and how I'm feeling -- cross-legged, half-lotus, burmese, in a chair, kneeling, sitting in a bar. =)

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:37 pm

Larry rosenberg tells a story:

Some students wonder if "cross-legged posture" refers to the full -lotus position. Probably the Buddha did mean the full -lotus, and there is no question that it is an extremely stable posture. I myself had a teacher who thought the full lotus extremely important, and who asked me to master it. It took me ten years. The first year i couldnt even get into it. The next year i could hold it for perhaps minutes. Now the full lotus is quite comfortable for me. But my own judgement is that it usually isnt worth a new students trying so hard to learn it. If it sets up an unrealistic goal, it can become an occasion for suffering and a distraction from the real purpose of dhamma practice. It can too easily be used in the service of the ego. Years after i had mastered the full lotus, another teacher walked by while i was sitting, tapped on my shoulder, and gestured toward my full lotus. "This is the whole problem for you." And it can be a problem if it is something you attach to.
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:24 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: What position do you use for sitting meditation.....

Postby AdvaitaJ » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:56 am

I voted "Kneeling", assuming that would include the use of a bench.

I've done quite a bit of running over the years, carrying about 25-30 pounds more than I should and that has resulted in some fairly substantial calf muscles...to say nothing of the fragility of the knee joints! I used half-lotus for a few months, but would have consistent problems with knee pain, numbness, legs slipping out of position, etc after 20 minutes or so. Within a week of building my bench, I was comfortably up to 45 minutes with little pain and now, a bit over a year later, 45 minutes is generally pain-free and, depending on what the mind is doing, over an hour is now very do-able with minimal discomfort.

I've tried a chair a couple of times and found the center of gravity too high for my liking. While the bench is not as stable as cross-legged positions, it still provides a fairly large "base" that seems to help me forego the need to consciously balance.

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