noting during dream

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noting during dream

Postby Freawaru » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:29 am

Hello All,

during dream one is usually too unaware to practice much but now and then there are lucid dreams. When knowing that one dreams during dream has anybody ever tried to note (in the Mahasi style or otherwise)? One could start by noting "lucid dream, lucid dream" for example. Or when walking in the dream "walking in dream, walking in dream" or when the dream changes into another dream "shift, shift" or something like that.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Orbiting-Awareness » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:36 am

This is quite an interesting topic. I wonder if while in a lucid dream you could perhaps do some sitting meditation. I might have to try this when I go to bed, if I can remember to! That might be the biggest problem, Telling yourself to note what's happening.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby poto » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:47 am

I've had many lucid dreams, but haven't thought to specifically do noting in them.

One thing I've noticed is that if I spend a lot of time meditating or am on retreat I tend to meditate in my dreams. I don't try to meditate in my dreams, it just happens. And if I'm tempted with a beautiful woman I'll ignore her or push her away and return to my 'dream practice'. Not sure why I do that in my dreams since I'm pretty sure that if a beautiful women threw herself on me in my waking life I wouldn't push her away, lol.

When I'm lax in my practice I tend to give into the temptations in my dreams. I dunno... I don't really assign much significance to dreams.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Ben » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:00 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:09 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: noting during dream

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Moggalana » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 pm

Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:59 pm

Would this be a description of sleeping meditation then
body asleep, mind awake, where the body is asleep, but the mind is in different levels of consciousness which is able to be turned to the outside world in some levels such as sleep paralysis?


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Moggalana » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:52 pm

Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.

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Re: noting during dream

Postby bodom » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm

Wow i have a difficult enough time noting during meditation let alone noting while sleeping.
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: noting during dream

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Re: noting during dream

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:26 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: noting during dream

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Ben » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:50 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: noting during dream

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Ben » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:38 pm

Hi Freewaru
Sorry I missed your question.
Yes, as Mike says, my teacher is SN Goenka and again, his instructions on maintaining awareness while going to sleep isn't unique.
metta

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

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Re: noting during dream

Postby Freawaru » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:35 am

Hello Mike and Ben,

:thanks:


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