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Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:16 pm

There is an interesting blog article and discussion at Ven. Dhammika's blog here:

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2009/01/elephant-man.html

(The Jan. 27, 2009 posting)

I tend to lean toward the opinion that some movies are okay, in this modern world, not because the 'Vinaya is outdated' (it is not), but rather, like the Venerable mentions, some movies today are documentaries, are educational, or have Dhammic overtones to them. What do you think?
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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby bodom » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:32 pm

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Postby genkaku » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:08 pm

I loved "The Cup" -- a quasi documentary about monks at a monastery (real monastery, real monks) trying to figure out how to get a TV into the monastery so they can watch the world-championship soccer match. Nice story, nice (and blessedly restrained) lessons in Buddhism.
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Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:31 pm

At some temples I have seen some monks with their own tv's and some were watching sitcoms.

At one Fo Guang (sp?) temple I saw several nuns huddled around a small tv. When I went into the room to see what they were watching, it was a daytime soap opera. :popcorn: Maybe they were checking out the mundane world, to make sure they didn't miss anything.
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Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:19 pm

it is my understanding that if it is a program about the Buddha, Dhamma, or Sangha or something that would be of benefit to the practice such as a program on psychology then it is ok, but TV etc that are about the breaking of precepts would be out of the question for a monastic.
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Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:53 am

i think it depends on the setting, theres probably no need for a forest monk to watch tv or movies on the other hand when i 1st started attending my Wat a monk there told posed this question to me; " if we dont know who harry potter is or other cultural things how can we be of any help when younger thai people come to us and we dont even know their world?"
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The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby appicchato » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:47 am

Question: Why do people NEVER get tired of making value judgments?...endlessly hashing over why someone watches a movie?...fuuu-tile...

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Postby Jechbi » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:39 pm

Come to think of it, I do get pretty tired of making value judgments, actually.

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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:23 pm

Life is full of value judgments. Life is full of decisions, including to go to university or not, which career path to take, who to choose as a spouse or partner, etc. Deciding on pursing the Dhamma or another spiritual path is another decision. These are all value judgments. Where it can go hay wire is when we focus too much on the value judgments of others. We should focus attention to what we do and say and not the actions of others (to paraphrase the Dhammapada verse).

Pretty much any film can be seen as Dhammic as nearly every screen play has some moral to the story. Many years ago there was a movie called 'Groundhog Day' starring Bill Murray. I read in Gary Gach's book that this was a 'Dharmic' movie. At first I wondered how that could be, but then remembered the repeating of the same day was like samsara; repeating it ad nauseum until he 'got it right.'
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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby Ben » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:22 am

Thanks Bhante!
That was just priceless!
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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:22 am

:rofl:
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Watching movies if you are a monk

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:lol:
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