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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:39 pm

Happy uposatha to all of you who are observing the 8 precepts today! Be well!
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby catmoon » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:08 am

Ignoramus questions of the week:

Is uposatha observed on the full AND new moon(s)?

If the new moon is on the 16th why is the above post dated the 17th?
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:57 am

yes, and the quater moon. they are happen every 6-8 days.
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Laurens » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:49 pm

I observed my first Uposatha day last week. I don't think I did too badly, but before I observe tomorrow, I would like to ask for some pointers.

Last time I turned on the computer in order to use it to listen to a couple of Dhamma talks online, however, out of habit I did find myself logging in to facebook and msn. How important is it that I keep strictly to the 8 precepts? if I find myself indulging in entertainment, is it okay that I simply notice the fact and then stop as soon as I notice (as I did last time)? or would it be better not to even turn the computer on in the first place?

I plan to dedicate my day to meditation and Dhamma study, I'm guessing this is what we are meant to do on Uposatha days, however is there anything else that I might wish to do to strengthen my practice?

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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:44 pm

Laurens,

Excellent questions, too bad I'm not qualified to answer out of anything except for my own experience. As a general rule, I like to be as strict as possible about the observance of the precepts whether they be 5, 8, 10, 12 or 227 (not that I've undertaken the patimokkha in this lifetime). An despite the fact that I am strict with myself about the precepts that doesn't mean I don't goof up occasionally-it just means I don't blur the lines for myself and see my akusala kamma for what it is. As for noticing when we're doing something wrong and ceasing to do so I think that doing so is one of the best definitions of right mindfulness. Sounds like you're off to a great start to me but please don't hesitate to ask more knowledgeable folk than me for pointers. Also, if you haven't joined our Facebook club, we have a thread for Confession of Faults so we can air out those slip-ups and get on with our practice. May you be well, happy and at peace!

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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Monkey Mind » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:45 am

The calendar of Uposatha days is calculated using a complex traditional formula that is loosely based on the lunar calendar, with the result that the dates do not always coincide with the actual astronomical dates. To further complicate matters, each sect within Theravada Buddhism tends to follow a slightly different calendar.


Because local Sanghas do not observe Uposatha or have traditions for this, I have been doing this on my own. Is it important to observe the date identified on the calendar, or to observe the actual moon phase date. For example, the quarter moon was Tuesday, but the calendar identifies THursday as the day of observance.
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:19 am

Monkey Mind wrote:
The calendar of Uposatha days is calculated using a complex traditional formula that is loosely based on the lunar calendar, with the result that the dates do not always coincide with the actual astronomical dates. To further complicate matters, each sect within Theravada Buddhism tends to follow a slightly different calendar.


Because local Sanghas do not observe Uposatha or have traditions for this, I have been doing this on my own. Is it important to observe the date identified on the calendar, or to observe the actual moon phase date. For example, the quarter moon was Tuesday, but the calendar identifies THursday as the day of observance.


I'd say whichever you think is easier to routinely do! but the observance is worked out according to a special calculation I believe so that is why it is sometimes different.
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Monkey Mind » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:28 am

Manapa wrote: but the observance is worked out according to a special calculation I believe so that is why it is sometimes different.

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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:08 pm

Happy Uposatha Everyone! May everyone observing reap great fruit and benefit! :anjali:
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:28 pm

Happy Uposatha! :anjali:
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:21 pm

Happy Uposatha Day! It's great to finally able to do something worthwhile on New Year's Eve! Metta.

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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Chula » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:33 pm

yes great way to start the new year..
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:31 pm

Happy Uposatha Day!
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby yuuki » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:36 pm

Observing uposatha days is one of my resolutions for the New Year. I've been going by the actual phases of the moon as seen from Japan, where I live.

It's nice having the day to reorient myself. And, I'm finding that it's actually a bonus that the days are completely at odds with the solar calendar, since it prevents them from feeling like a routine, like it might feel if they were simply every Saturday or Sunday.

I'd like to find a bhikkhu in my area to visit for dana.
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:54 pm

Yuuki,

Sounds like observing the uposatha is going to be a fruitful practice for you. All the best to you! Be well!
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:23 pm

Happy Uposatha Everyone! Metta!
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:06 am

Happy uposatha everyone! Here are this year's dates:

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sila/uposatha2010.html
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:53 pm

Khalil Bodhi wrote: Here are this year's dates:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sila/uposatha2010.html

Interesting that this year there is no different between the two Thai sects. This list agrees with my Thai calendar which my Wat uses (with Mahanikaya dates). Perhaps they have come to some sort of agreement... Of course, there may well be differences from other countries...

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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:47 pm

Mike,

Cool, that means that there'll be even more of us observing on every uposatha day. :twothumbsup: Be well!
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Re: Uposatha Observance Club

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:49 am

Happy uposatha everyone!
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-Dhp. 183

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