Greetings,
I've seen two copies of K.R. Norman's translation of the Sutta Nipata for sale... one with footnotes, and one without. The one with footnotes is more expensive than the one without.
A question to anyone who has read the copy with footnotes.... How insightful or useful are the footnotes, and would they justify the additional expense.
Thanks.
Metta,
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K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
Oh, definitely get the one with footnotes. They are not usually geeky footnotes of philologic phlights of phancy, but basically amount to the different translations given by I B Horner and Walpola Rahula (I think it is those two, don't have book on hand right now). So, it is effectively three versions all together in one. Very useful and nice. Probably the only way to improve it would be to the Pali itself right there!retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
I've seen two copies of K.R. Norman's translation of the Sutta Nipata for sale... one with footnotes, and one without. The one with footnotes is more expensive than the one without.
A question to anyone who has read the copy with footnotes.... How insightful or useful are the footnotes, and would they justify the additional expense.
Thanks.
Metta,
Retro.
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
Hi Retro
As a matter of interest, where are they for sale?
metta
Ben
As a matter of interest, where are they for sale?
metta
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
Greetings bhante,
Excellent... thank you for the recommendation!
I've been meaning to get around to purchasing it, but when I go to do so, I always come across this hurdle and never get past it.
Metta,
Retro.
Excellent... thank you for the recommendation!
I've been meaning to get around to purchasing it, but when I go to do so, I always come across this hurdle and never get past it.
Metta,
Retro.
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
Greetings Ben,
I can't remember
It was only after a comment that was made on a Facebook status post I'd done, that I even remembered I was going to ask the question!
Metta,
Retro.
I can't remember
It was only after a comment that was made on a Facebook status post I'd done, that I even remembered I was going to ask the question!
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
No problems Retro.
But if you do remember, please let me know.
If its affordable, I would be interested in making an incremental expansion of my meagre library!
Ben
But if you do remember, please let me know.
If its affordable, I would be interested in making an incremental expansion of my meagre library!
Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
It would be well worth the money. The only other translation i know of is by H. Saddhatissa and i was not at all impressed with the translation and meager foot notes.Ben wrote:No problems Retro.
But if you do remember, please let me know.
If its affordable, I would be interested in making an incremental expansion of my meagre library!
Ben
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
I have recently bought this, and it is a nice book. One note though: it is written in prose all the way through, which is not as charming. But there is much less ambiguity in meaning than, say, Thanissaro's, and so there is much less need of those commentary notes and explanation's that pepper verse translations.
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Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
its the one i bought after Ajahn Dhammanando recomended it
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
Re: K.R. Norman - Rhinoceros Horn (Sutta Nipata translation)
If I'm not mistaken, PTS has both for sale, the one with the notes being:Ben wrote:Hi Retro
As a matter of interest, where are they for sale?
And the one without notes being:The Group of Discourses,
2nd ed., tr. K.R. Norman (with notes), 2001
ISBN 303 6 £35.75
I can't seem to figure out what's the direct link to this, so please go to PTS translation page:Paperback edition (without notes): The Rhinoceros Horn.
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and then scroll down to around the middle of the page, "The Group of discourses" should be somewhere thereabout.
Best wishes