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Do you have to abstain from sex to achieve jhana?

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Do you have to abstain from sex to achieve jhana?

Postby DorjePhurba » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:16 pm

Recently someone suggested that a meditator must abstain from sex in order to gain jhanic concentration. I've been reading a lot about jhana lately and have not come across anyone suggesting that. Could anyone shed some light and explain whether the Buddha ever said this?

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[quote="DorjePhurba"]Recently someone suggested that a meditator must abstain from sex in order to gain jhanic concentration. I've been reading a lot about jhana lately and have not come across anyone suggesting that. Could anyone shed some light and explain whether the Buddha ever said this?
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Trying to have sex while meditating would probably be slightly distracting.

I too have not seen anything linking sex and the jhanas.

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Postby Kenshou » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:04 pm

There is nothing special about sex, it's just another physical pleasure. And like all sensual pleasures, they've got to be out of mind during meditation. It isn't that there is some metaphysical mystical connection with sex and the stability of concentration. If you're craving chocolate cake in the middle of your session, that's as much of a hindrance as a sexual desire would be.

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Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:16 pm

You do not need to permanently abstain from sex, but certainly for the meditation session. One cannot enter jhana unless the five hindrances are put at bay, at least temporarily and for the duration of the meditation session. The five hindrances are:

1. Sense desire (kamacchanda)
2. Anger (byapada)
3. Sloth and torpor (thina-middha)
4. Agitation and worry (uddhacca-kukkucca)
5. Extreme skepticism (vicikiccha)

(from Anguttara Nikaya 9.64 and numerous other places in the Tiptiaka)

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