Bhante Vimalaramsi
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Bhante Vimalaramsi
anyone have any personal experience with this monastic?
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi
Bhante Vimala seems quite OK. I share his preference for the original teachings of the Buddha in the Majjhima Nikaya.
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Re: Bhante Vimalaramsi
the reason i ask is i'm reading his book, and i have been considering going down to dhammasukha this summer for a retreat.
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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Sounds like a plan. If his book agreed with you and you have the possibility, why not. He will lead you to Nibbana.
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this is why i'm asking for personal experiencesthecap wrote:, why not. .
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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I haven't met him personally yet, but the people who had met him have made only positive remarks.
However, as he has an unconventional teaching style drawing directly from the Suttas, it is best to gather your own impression:
Some worthwhile talks>
Dependent Origination w/ Bhante Vimalaramsi
Vipassana Vs the Suttas - Which is Right?
However, as he has an unconventional teaching style drawing directly from the Suttas, it is best to gather your own impression:
Some worthwhile talks>
Dependent Origination w/ Bhante Vimalaramsi
Vipassana Vs the Suttas - Which is Right?
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He has a unique interpretation that is not shared by other teachers that I know about. He is also very attached to his own views and feels they are the only correct ones being taught.
This isn't to say that you might get a lot out of his teachings.
Jack
This isn't to say that you might get a lot out of his teachings.
Jack
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Hi Jack
Have you personally met him?
Do you have any base for your accusations, or are you just gossiping?
Have you personally met him?
Do you have any base for your accusations, or are you just gossiping?
What about Buddha for a unique teacher?Jack wrote:He has a unique interpretation that is not shared by other teachers that I know about.
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i don't think jack has to have met him to form this opinion, as Bhante clearly states in his book that other teachers aren't teaching meditation the way the Buddha intended. though his instructions so far remind me a bit of lp Buddhadasa (who bhante vimalarmsi says he practiced with)thecap wrote:Hi Jack
Have you personally met him?
Do you have any base for your accusations, or are you just gossiping?
What about Buddha for a unique teacher?Jack wrote:He has a unique interpretation that is not shared by other teachers that I know about.
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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That is true, my friend.jcsuperstar wrote:i don't think jack has to have met him to form this opinion, as Bhante clearly states in his book that other teachers aren't teaching meditation the way the Buddha intended.
However, Jack didn't substantiate whether Bhante V's statements were true or not.
Bhante V gave plenty reasons why there doesn't seem to be anyone else at this time who is teaching "correct" Anapansati including the relaxation step.
That doesn't mean other teachings are "wrong" and only this is "right".
It's a statement with reference to the ancient Anapanasati Sutta and modern Vipassana Meditation, respectively, which are two different pairs of shoes.
Have you ever considered that Bhante V may have a point there?
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I really, really don't think this type of discussion should be on-list.
Why not go to Private Message?
Why not go to Private Message?
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Hi cooran. I think there are people who will benefit from an open discussion.cooran wrote:I really, really don't think this type of discussion should be on-list.
Why not go to Private Message?
And there are probably others would will simply make up their own mind and go about their way.
Why do you think this discussion should go unseen by the public, my friend?
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Is that his apparently unnoticed step? I thought it was smiling.
thecap wrote:That is true, my friend.jcsuperstar wrote:i don't think jack has to have met him to form this opinion, as Bhante clearly states in his book that other teachers aren't teaching meditation the way the Buddha intended.
However, Jack didn't substantiate whether Bhante V's statements were true or not.
Bhante V gave plenty reasons why there doesn't seem to be anyone else at this time who is teaching "correct" Anapansati including the relaxation step.
That doesn't mean other teachings are "wrong" and only this is "right".
It's a statement with reference to the ancient Anapanasati Sutta and modern Vipassana Meditation, respectively, which are two different pairs of shoes.
Have you ever considered that Bhante V may have a point there?
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
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Greetings,
Metta,
Retro.
If venerable Vimalaramsi does indeed have a "teaching style drawing directly from the Suttas", as thecap states above, then I for one would certainly be more interested in hearing more about what and how he teaches. Not interested in "gossip", but details about his approach and what makes it unique.cooran wrote:I really, really don't think this type of discussion should be on-list.
Metta,
Retro.
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His Barebones instruction on Anapanasati
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two bellow Pa Auk Sayadaw next to Ajahn Sumedho
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two bellow Pa Auk Sayadaw next to Ajahn Sumedho
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Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill