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Vipassana or Anapanasati?

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Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Collective » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:42 am

Does anyone have a summary of the differences between Vipassana and Anapanasati?

Thank :namaste: you

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:49 am

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby baratgab » Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:41 am

"Just as in the great ocean there is but one taste — the taste of salt — so in this Doctrine and Discipline there is but one taste — the taste of freedom"

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby puthujjana » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:25 am

"Once you understand anatta, then the burden of life is gone. You’ll be at peace with the world. When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness and we can truly be happy."

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Collective » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:11 pm

Thank you all very much

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Collective » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:46 am

Should eyes be open or closed?

I thought nothing of this as most of what I read and/or heard said eyes open.

Lately though I've been reading 'eyes closed'. Which is it?

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby bodom » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:48 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:03 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:09 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby PeterB » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:26 am

Collective, there comes a point where we can start confusing ourselves. We can ask for advice about the broad-brush approaches to different practices. But eventually it comes down to trial and error and what works for us. And that might differ from person to person. It is understandible that we should want all our ducks lined up before we start, but doesnt actually work that way.

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Collective » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:40 pm

Just sat for 20 minutes, eyes closed, and it was different.

After I'd settled, I got mental images, probably just the mind playing tricks. Iwasn't tired, like dozing off, but I was relaxed. I couldn't make out anything definite, just a lot of fuzzy images. I also felt nauseous at one point, and I also got the subtle feeling of spinning? I think at one point I also expereinced a slight pressure in my chest which disconcerted me for a brief while - but I son got back to the breath.

It was all in all though, an enjoyable expereince, different from open eyes meditation. Different in the ways described above.

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Re: Vipassana or Anapanasati?

Postby Kenshou » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:48 pm

That all sounds pretty typical, Collective. When your eyes are closed, many bodily sensations can seem much more intense than usual, sometimes quite odd. The longer and more you sit, the more unfamiliar and disconcerting feelings tend to evaporate as the mind stills. And still other feelings more intense but pleasant can arise.

Just keep watching that breath!

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