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Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga? - Dhamma Wheel

Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

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Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby AdvaitaJ » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:18 am

It occurs to me that the existence many of us lead in this technologically advanced world could seem like we are Devas and this is heaven. Imagine telling someone 2,500 years ago that you can travel 600 miles in one hour. Or that you can speak and hear someone on the other side of the planet. That you've never been hungry. That you can make things frozen or boiling hot as you wish. TV, stereos, computers, and on and on and on. :alien:

To someone living in the Buddha's time, would they not have thought our existence today qualifies as divine and that all of us who live this lifestyle today are truly benefiting from vast amounts of positive kamma?

Is there anything in the suttas that says rebirth happens immediately on death? What if "time" is literally not a factor and a positive rebirth is actually achieved by being born now or even 500 years from now (assuming we don't trash the place between now and then ;) )?

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Re: Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby bodom » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:58 pm

Theres too much suffering here for this to be heaven.

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To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

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Re: Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby Heavenstorm » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:12 pm


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Re: Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby Individual » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:46 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby clw_uk » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:56 pm

If we were devas then nibbana would become even more harder to attain if not impossible as it is only in human existence, with the balance of pain and pleasure can nibbana be found.

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Re: Is there a chance that we are Devas in Sagga?

Postby bodom » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:04 pm

If this is heaven then i sure dont wanna see hell.

:namaste:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/


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