Anatta as the basis for insight - What object? What benefit?

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Postby retrofuturist » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:07 pm

Greetings Meindzai,

A stream-entrant has Right View about anatta, but it's only upon Arahantship that the last vestiges of residual tendency (anusaya) to think in terms of I (asmi) are eradicated. Hence, perception of anatta is still important to the sekha.

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I answered the question and you didn't like the answer, so you kept asking the same question. That isn't my problem.

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Postby vinasp » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:01 pm

Hi everyone,

"In conceiving form, venerable sir, one is bound by Mara: by not conceiving it one is freed from the Evil One.
In conceiving feeling ...
In conceiving perception ...
In conceiving volitional formations ...
In conceiving consciousness one is bound by Mara; by not conceiving it one is freed from the Evil One. [ SN 22. 64]

I see nothing wrong in simply conceiving form. What must be meant here is conceiving form as self or related to self. In this way one acquires a 'self'. When one has such an 'acquired self' one becomes subject to death, or Mara the Lord of Death.

" But I teach a doctrine for getting rid of the gross acquired self ..." [DN 9. 40].

Best wishes, Vincent.


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