The Bodhisattva Vows

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The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby piper » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:22 pm

I'm curious about the Bodhisattva vows and what they might mean to serious practitioners who make these vows. People who've taken the precepts, refuge, or just recite them regularly.

I've had a recent experience that leads me to believe that many "serious" practitioners may not actually take these vows very seriously. That is they readily abandon them when they become too challenging. Granted they are "impossible" vows, never the less does it not disparage the Buddhadhamma to make such vows and subsequently not try so hard to live up to them?

Please share any thoughts you might have on the subject, thanks.

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:26 pm

piper wrote:I'm curious about the Bodhisattva vows and what they might mean to serious practitioners who make these vows. People who've taken the precepts, refuge, or just recite them regularly.

I've had a recent experience that leads me to believe that many "serious" practitioners may not actually take these vows very seriously. That is they readily abandon them when they become too challenging. Granted they are "impossible" vows, never the less does it not disparage the Buddhadhamma to make such vows and subsequently not try so hard to live up to them?

Please share any thoughts you might have on the subject, thanks.
The question is: Is there really a need for such vows, given that the Buddha taught such a need or such vows?
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby piper » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:38 pm

tiltbillings wrote:The question is: Is there really a need for such vows, given that the Buddha taught such a need or such vows?

Hi Tiltbillings,

... sssshhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww ... [sound of question flying over head]

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby bodom » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:43 pm

piper wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:The question is: Is there really a need for such vows, given that the Buddha taught such a need or such vows?

Hi Tiltbillings,

... sssshhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww ... [sound of question flying over head]


The Buddha did not teach the bodhisattva path or bodhisattva vows in the pali tipitaka of Theravada Buddhism.

:anjali:
“What should be done for his disciples out of compassion by a teacher who seeks their welfare and has compassion for them, that I have done for you, bhikkhus. There are these roots of trees, these empty huts. Meditate, bhikkhus, do not delay or else you will regret it later. This is our instruction to you.” - MN 19

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby piper » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 pm

:embarassed: I'm always getting my traditions mixed up!

At least I put it in the free-for-all section.

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:12 pm

piper wrote::embarassed: I'm always getting my traditions mixed up!

At least I put it in the free-for-all section.

You might want to ask your question here:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: The Bodhisattva Vows

Postby piper » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:35 pm

Thanks!


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