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Buddha is Maya

Postby lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:45 pm

And Maya is Buddha.

Gotama Buddha's Dhamma is a contradiction of his own teaching and he subjects man for 2,500 years into his sangha by his rule. That is, Buddha's destiny to be king came true and he has done the most remarkable feat than any other king in history. He has ruled men past his own death over centuries without even being present.

As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men. Those that see through Buddha BUT UNDERSTAND him are enlightened people.

Buddha plays Maya to those who forget they already are buddhas.
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:53 pm

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:59 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

Your post sounds similar to some Mahayana teaching? You may also want to join:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/ (a Mahayana forum, associated with this site)


Thank you for the welcome.

Actually, i really meant Mara.

Therefore, Buddha is Mara, Mara--Buddha.

That said, in terms of Genius I sincerely believe Gotama ranks in the top three geniuses the world has ever seen. In terms of mind, he is number one.
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby acinteyyo » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:28 pm

lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

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Pubbe cāhaṃ bhikkhave, etarahi ca dukkhañceva paññāpemi, dukkhassa ca nirodhaṃ. (M.22)
Both formerly, monks, and now, it is just suffering that I make known and the ending of suffering.
Pathabyā ekarajjena, saggassa gamanena vā sabbalokādhipaccena, sotāpattiphalaṃ varaṃ. (Dhp 178)
Sole dominion over the earth, going to heaven or lordship over all worlds: the fruit of stream-entry excels them.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby bodom » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:38 pm

acinteyyo wrote:
lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

best wishes, acinteyyo


I was hoping for clarification of the entire post myself.

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 pm

:shock:
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:36 am

Buddha is Mara, Mara is Buddha ....Image
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby meindzai » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:41 am

plwk wrote:Image


Hotei is Hotei.

-M
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:33 am

What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby Kenshou » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:28 am

...do I detect some buddha-dhatu/tathagatagarbha? My Mahayana senses are tingling.
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:35 am

So far this is one dumb-assed thread. Maybe it might get better. . .
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:40 am

Don't hold your breath.

:lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:45 am

Too late
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:49 am

The result:
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:56 am

Image

Hotei is Hotei.

It was the picture of his laugh that I wanted to borrow for that quote, not relating him to the quote per se :jumping:
(Then again, I should have used Mr Bean...)
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:04 am

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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby cooran » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:05 am

BlackBird wrote:What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

metta
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Do you know this poster Jack? Or am I misunderstanding the name Rizzo?

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:47 am

Howdy Chris

See inbox :)

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby Fede » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:08 am

Well that was fun.... what shall we do now?
It's such a lovely day here, how about building some castles in the air....?

(Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)

Now where were we?
oh yes..... Dropping air-bricks..... :juggling:


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Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:06 pm

Fede wrote:(Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)


Happy Mothering Day ! ! !

How ironic, this thread was accidentally called "Buddha is Maya" when the OP meant to say "Buddha is Mara."

Maya (Pali version not the Sanskrit one) is the name of Buddha's mother!
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