Dhamma Wheel - A forum on the Dhamma of the Buddha

A Buddhist discussion forum on the Dhamma of the Theravada

Buddha is Maya

An open and inclusive investigation into Buddhism and spiritual cultivation
Forum rules
Post a reply

Buddha is Maya

Postby lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:45 pm

And Maya is Buddha.

Gotama Buddha's Dhamma is a contradiction of his own teaching and he subjects man for 2,500 years into his sangha by his rule. That is, Buddha's destiny to be king came true and he has done the most remarkable feat than any other king in history. He has ruled men past his own death over centuries without even being present.

As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men. Those that see through Buddha BUT UNDERSTAND him are enlightened people.

Buddha plays Maya to those who forget they already are buddhas.
lovediction
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:40 pm
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:53 pm

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

Your post sounds similar to some Mahayana teaching? You may also want to join:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/ (a Mahayana forum, associated with this site)
User avatar
David N. Snyder
Site Admin
 
Posts: 6812
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:15 am
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:59 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

Your post sounds similar to some Mahayana teaching? You may also want to join:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/ (a Mahayana forum, associated with this site)


Thank you for the welcome.

Actually, i really meant Mara.

Therefore, Buddha is Mara, Mara--Buddha.

That said, in terms of Genius I sincerely believe Gotama ranks in the top three geniuses the world has ever seen. In terms of mind, he is number one.
lovediction
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:40 pm
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby acinteyyo » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:28 pm

lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

best wishes, acinteyyo
Pubbe cāhaṃ bhikkhave, etarahi ca dukkhañceva paññāpemi, dukkhassa ca nirodhaṃ. (M.22)
Both formerly, monks, and now, it is just suffering that I make known and the ending of suffering.
:anjali:
User avatar
acinteyyo
 
Posts: 865
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:48 am
Location: Neuburg/Donau, Germany
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby bodom » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:38 pm

acinteyyo wrote:
lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

best wishes, acinteyyo


I was hoping for clarification of the entire post myself.

:anjali:
I am on extended leave until further notice. Please refer all moderation issues to our other moderators or administrators.
User avatar
bodom
 
Posts: 4324
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:18 pm
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 pm

:shock:
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)

'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra Panyapatipo

Dharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum)
User avatar
retrofuturist
 
Posts: 13626
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:36 am

Buddha is Mara, Mara is Buddha ....Image
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
Anguttara-Nikaya: Ekanipata: Ekadhammapali: Pañhamavagga
WBB TBHT HBM AC My Page
plwk
 
Posts: 967
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:14 am
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby meindzai » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:41 am

plwk wrote:Image


Hotei is Hotei.

-M
meindzai
 
Posts: 551
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:10 pm
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:33 am

What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

metta
Jack
"But, Udāyi, let be the past, let be the future, I shall set you forth the Teaching: When there is this this is, with arising of this this arises; when there is not this this is not, with cessation of this this ceases." - Majjhima ii,32

Nanavira Thera's teachings - An existential approach to the Dhamma:
http://bit.ly/LDsGHg
User avatar
BlackBird
 
Posts: 1388
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:07 pm
Location: New Zealand
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby Kenshou » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:28 am

...do I detect some buddha-dhatu/tathagatagarbha? My Mahayana senses are tingling.
Kenshou
 
Posts: 1016
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:03 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:35 am

So far this is one dumb-assed thread. Maybe it might get better. . .
Attachments
dumbass[1].jpg
dumbass[1].jpg (15.74 KiB) Viewed 922 times

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us
-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
User avatar
tiltbillings
 
Posts: 16733
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am
Location: Turtle Island
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:40 am

Don't hold your breath.

:lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)

'We should not congratulate someone on the success of their misdeeds, but on the contrary should endeavour to advise him or her to lead a more skilful and wholesome life. If such advice is ignored then we can only give up and let go' - Phra Panyapatipo

Dharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum)
User avatar
retrofuturist
 
Posts: 13626
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:45 am

Too late
Attachments
hold-your-breath-634[1].jpg
hold-your-breath-634[1].jpg (16.9 KiB) Viewed 917 times

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us
-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
User avatar
tiltbillings
 
Posts: 16733
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am
Location: Turtle Island
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:49 am

The result:
Attachments
hairball_for_you[1].gif
hairball_for_you[1].gif (8.07 KiB) Viewed 915 times

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us
-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
User avatar
tiltbillings
 
Posts: 16733
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am
Location: Turtle Island
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:56 am

Image

Hotei is Hotei.

It was the picture of his laugh that I wanted to borrow for that quote, not relating him to the quote per se :jumping:
(Then again, I should have used Mr Bean...)
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
Anguttara-Nikaya: Ekanipata: Ekadhammapali: Pañhamavagga
WBB TBHT HBM AC My Page
plwk
 
Posts: 967
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:14 am
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:04 am

.
Attachments
It is to laugh.jpg
It is to laugh.jpg (34.57 KiB) Viewed 906 times

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us
-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
User avatar
tiltbillings
 
Posts: 16733
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:25 am
Location: Turtle Island
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby cooran » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:05 am

BlackBird wrote:What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

metta
Jack

Do you know this poster Jack? Or am I misunderstanding the name Rizzo?

with metta
Chris
---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
User avatar
cooran
 
Posts: 6056
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:32 pm
Location: Queensland, Australia
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:47 am

Howdy Chris

See inbox :)

metta
Jack
"But, Udāyi, let be the past, let be the future, I shall set you forth the Teaching: When there is this this is, with arising of this this arises; when there is not this this is not, with cessation of this this ceases." - Majjhima ii,32

Nanavira Thera's teachings - An existential approach to the Dhamma:
http://bit.ly/LDsGHg
User avatar
BlackBird
 
Posts: 1388
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:07 pm
Location: New Zealand
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby Fede » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:08 am

Well that was fun.... what shall we do now?
It's such a lovely day here, how about building some castles in the air....?

(Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)

Now where were we?
oh yes..... Dropping air-bricks..... :juggling:


:roll:

:namaste:
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


http://www.armchairadvice.co.uk/relationships/forum/
User avatar
Fede
 
Posts: 1182
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:33 pm
Location: The Heart of this "Green & Pleasant Land"...
Top

Re: Buddha is Maya

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:06 pm

Fede wrote:(Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)


Happy Mothering Day ! ! !

How ironic, this thread was accidentally called "Buddha is Maya" when the OP meant to say "Buddha is Mara."

Maya (Pali version not the Sanskrit one) is the name of Buddha's mother!
User avatar
David N. Snyder
Site Admin
 
Posts: 6812
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:15 am
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Top
Next
Post a reply

Return to Open Dhamma

Who is online

Registered users: Bakmoon, barcsimalsi, Bing [Bot], Digity, dxm_dxm, Feathers, fivebells, Google [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, Kamran, kellievella, Lazy_eye, Majestic-12 [Bot], mettafuture, mikenz66, Mojo, purple planet, retrofuturist

©2009 David N. Snyder, Ph.D., Vipassana Foundation and The Dhamma Encyclopedia. All Rights Reserved.
© 2000, 2002, 2003, 2007 phpBB Group
Chat room

Dhamma Wheel is associated with Dharma Wheel.
Time : 0.167s | 15 Queries | GZIP : Off