pt1 wrote:Thanks tilt, RYB and all for your thoughts on this.
One related thing I'm wondering at the moment - regardless of whether a person is instructed in ultimate terms, or in conventional terms, or both, or he just practices as nathan suggests, etc, regardless, when the actual penetration occurs (i.e. from the time stages of insight start happening) - is it always in the same way? What I mean is - penetration always has to do with gaining insight into the ultimate domain - i.e. being aware of different dhammas arising and ceasing, right?. So, its not like if a person is instructed only in conventional terms, then his insight will also remain in the conventional domain only for example. Thanks.
Hello Pt1, all,
I believe that the 4NT are the heart of Dhamma. The escape from suffering (and future aggregates) is by removing ALL craving toward them.
Most of Craving is not a "theoretical problem", thus its answer is not in learning more theory. It involves very boring and hard work of mindfulness and wisdom that cuts down akusala.
In the suttas you will find many instances where only few lines of theory was enough for theory. Not only that, but often the those teachings were different, except for the fact that they have taught to counteract craving.
Even teachings "in detail" (what Netti recommends for us, blunt types) are not exactly PhD material and may be 1 or few more pages long.
The hardest thing is to go against the craving, including craving for mind-objects & ideas.