Partless particles and moments

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Partless particles and moments

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:02 pm

If a phenomena truly exists it is either one thing or many things. No phenomena can be one thing because no phenomena is a single thing, it has parts. It has a front, a middle or a back, a beginning, duration and end, etc. Neither can it be many things. Each of the parts can themselves be divided into smaller units, ad infinitum. We never reach partless units to serve as building blocks of time and space. A string has extension, a moment has extension. Therefore all phenomena do not exist from their own side, they are like dreams, reflections, echoes, fictions, images and appearances.
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby bodom » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:26 pm

Emptiness.

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby Heavenstorm » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:12 pm

Actually modern science already reveal the fact that there is no such things as partless particles joining together as one , the notion of a physical object is nothing more than countless of dotlike particles surrounding by vast empty space while interacting with each other using electromagnetic force and other invisible fundamental forces.

Our feeling/sense of touch is caused by nothing more than a effect due to electromagnetic repulsion and our sense sight is merely due to the reflection of visible light, a form of electromagnetic spectrum.
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:24 pm

bodom_bad_boy wrote:Emptiness.

Of all phenomena. Not just self.
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby kowtaaia » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:49 am

Friday evening on PBS (check your listings):

Program: 'Independent Lens'.

"The Atom Smashers: Physicists search for the Higgs Boson, a particle important to the understanding of how the universe is held together."
Where thought arises and where it dissolves,
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby Jechbi » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:45 pm

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:... they are like dreams, reflections, echoes, fictions, images and appearances.

But if my neighbor is hungry or otherwise in need, I'm going to act like it's real.
Rain soddens what is kept wrapped up,
But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby jcsuperstar » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:57 pm

kowtaaia wrote:Friday evening on PBS (check your listings):

Program: 'Independent Lens'.

"The Atom Smashers: Physicists search for the Higgs Boson, a particle important to the understanding of how the universe is held together."


see thats what i miss about tv, though the pbs up here isnt that great, the one where im from (houston and also the 1st in the US) was awesome
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Re: Partless particles and moments

Postby Prasadachitta » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:44 am

Jechbi wrote:
Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:... they are like dreams, reflections, echoes, fictions, images and appearances.

But if my neighbor is hungry or otherwise in need, I'm going to act like it's real.


That is because you, your neighbor, his/her hunger and whatever action you take are free of unchanging essence or duration of any kind.

I agree that using analogies such as dreams or fictions doesn't work very well because some phenomena have apparent functions which others do not. In other words you cannot drink a mirage.

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